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> 59-year-olds are vaxxed at a much higher rate than 10 or 20 year olds. This is the only intelligent response to explain why overall mortality is 2X higher in

> 59-year-olds are vaxxed at a much higher rate than 10 or 20 year olds. This is the only intelligent response to explain why overall mortality is 2X higher in the vaxxed group. I agree with you this could be an explanation. The problem is it still completely destroys the idea that unvaccinated are the ones who should be restricted from society. It shows your age is more important than vaccine status. Someone being obese or not is also more important than vaccine status. Whether you had prior infection is more important than vaccine status. If it was true that the vaccine was so NEEDED you had to mandate it for the younger age groups, take away their civil liberties without a regular testing option then you’d have to make a strong case those age groups are dying in large numbers. They aren’t - and that’s how I interpret this statistic. I think there are many other ways to prove hundreds of thousands have died from the vaccine. Here are some more: http://www.skirsch.com/covid/Deaths.pdf http://www.skirsch.com/covid/Deaths.pdf Seatbelts don’t cause myocarditis. The vaccine can cause adverse events and the way these are being discounted is inhumane. All this while it doesn’t even stop spread… the most vaccinated places have the highest case counts per million. Yet governments are pushing more mandates making unvaccinated second-class citizens. MISInformation stands for Massively Important Statistical Information… and I’m going to spread it as long as governments try to ruin my life for a personal medical decision. EDIT: I swear they changed that fact check. Read it again - it used to link exactly where I linked to. I guess it was easier to debunk something else

jollybean 5y ago
"This is the only intelligent response to explain why overall mortality is 2X higher in the vaxxed group." It does not really need an explanation. We already have conclusive data of the power of vaccines. " The problem is it still completely destroys the idea that unvaccinated are the ones who should be restricted from society." No it doesn't. COVID spreads quickly among the young and old. There is no way to systmatically just keep the vulnerable in a bubble. We can reduce their interactivity, but if COVID is widespread, that won't protect them or anyone. Vaccines reduce spread significantly, which is why we want everyone to get them. If you want to drive in the winter, in Canada you need to 1) have insurance 2) pass a test and 3) have winter tires 4) have your car up to a bunch of standards. And you cannot drink and drive. Those curtailments of your civil liberties exist because you can screw up other people's lives.
joshuahedlund 5y ago
> prove hundreds of thousands have died from the vaccine. Here are some more: That link doesn’t “prove” anything. By its own admission, it’s a “hypothesis”, and it’s based on a number of questionable assumptions, including assuming there’s a 41x multiplier of reported anaphylactic events immediately after vaccination, (plausible), assuming it’s comparable to a multiplier of reported deaths over a much longer time period (not plausible), and then assuming what percentages of those multiplied unreported deaths are “legitimate” based on a host of small sample sizes that, even if they are accurate (another assumption), we have no idea if they are representative enough to accurately scale to much larger numbers (completely implausible) Besides, the theory doesn’t even pass the smell test. The months last year with the lowest excess deaths in the US - March and April - just happen to be the months with the highest numbers of administered covid vaccine doses https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~USA Note that it’s possible the vaccines are less safe than advertised and that adverse events and even deaths are more common than acknowledged (and that vaccine mandates are wrong), and for those true numbers to be much smaller than 150,000

jollybean 5y ago

"This is the only intelligent response to explain why overall mortality is 2X higher in the vaxxed group." It does not really need an explanation. We already have conclusive data of the power of vaccines. " The problem is it still completely destroys the idea that unvaccinated are the ones who should be restricted from society." No it doesn't. COVID spreads quickly among the young and old. There is no way to systmatically just keep the vulnerable in a bubble. We can reduce their interactivity, but if COVID is widespread, that won't protect them or anyone. Vaccines reduce spread significantly, which is why we want everyone to get them. If you want to drive in the winter, in Canada you need to 1) have insurance 2) pass a test and 3) have winter tires 4) have your car up to a bunch of standards. And you cannot drink and drive. Those curtailments of your civil liberties exist because you can screw up other people's lives.

joshuahedlund 5y ago

> prove hundreds of thousands have died from the vaccine. Here are some more: That link doesn’t “prove” anything. By its own admission, it’s a “hypothesis”, and it’s based on a number of questionable assumptions, including assuming there’s a 41x multiplier of reported anaphylactic events immediately after vaccination, (plausible), assuming it’s comparable to a multiplier of reported deaths over a much longer time period (not plausible), and then assuming what percentages of those multiplied unreported deaths are “legitimate” based on a host of small sample sizes that, even if they are accurate (another assumption), we have no idea if they are representative enough to accurately scale to much larger numbers (completely implausible) Besides, the theory doesn’t even pass the smell test. The months last year with the lowest excess deaths in the US - March and April - just happen to be the months with the highest numbers of administered covid vaccine doses https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~USA https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations?country=~USA Note that it’s possible the vaccines are less safe than advertised and that adverse events and even deaths are more common than acknowledged (and that vaccine mandates are wrong), and for those true numbers to be much smaller than 150,000