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And it's not just opiate users. People buying coke & 'molly' are overdosing too from fent and analogues too. Why in the world would a dealer put fent into coke

And it's not just opiate users. People buying coke & 'molly' are overdosing too from fent and analogues too. Why in the world would a dealer put fent into coke. I guess a speedball feels great but the average weekend partier doing a bump or a pill are not looking to walk that death tightrope. Just sad all around and we still have a long way to go with stigma and science based treatment. If you happen to be in that scene might be a good idea to start carrying naloxone.

worik 5y ago
A very powerful argument for legalising forms of those drugs for recreational use.
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  Yea please! Decriminalizing would be a great first step but won't cut out the cartels and gangs and adulteration (kind word for poisoning..) Would also love to see over the counter narcan. suboxone for any who wants it without the compliance burden.
  - slapshot 5y ago
    Narcan is available "behind the counter" in most states. You have to ask for it, but a prescription isn't required.[1] [1] https://www.cvs.com/content/prescription-drug-abuse/save-a-life https://www.cvs.com/content/prescription-drug-abuse/save-a-l...
    - dillondoyle 5y ago
      I know there were a few people organizing on reddit too where they would ship it if you can't access it easily too! I think it was a lady on /r/opiates
Tiktaalik 5y ago
Yep. It's not an opioid epidemic or crisis, it's a toxic drug crisis. The drugs are poisoned. No one knows what's in them. There's a drug test site in my city that regularly posts examples of what they find on twitter. Totally random ultra dangerous poisons in party drugs. All the time. Here's an example: a drug not safe for humans in a test sample of MDMA. https://twitter.com/GYDTcanada/status/1477444546480984065?s=20 https://twitter.com/GYDTcanada/status/1477444546480984065?s=... People are dying because they're doing some thing and they have no idea what it is. It's impossible to use drugs safely in such a situation.
- krona 5y ago
  Are you saying coroners aren't doing toxicology reports, or something else?
  - Tiktaalik 5y ago
    I'm sure the coroners reports are complete and accurate, but the way this has been portrayed in the media is as "overdoses" and hand waved as an opioid issue. The reality is more complex and the issue is beyond opioids. Yes these are "overdoses" but when the contents of the drug is not truly what the drug user is told, the drug user has no way to know what the safe dose is of the drug they are using. Drug use has become a game of russian roulette as no one has any knowledge of what is in the drugs and there's no real safe dosage.

worik 5y ago

A very powerful argument for legalising forms of those drugs for recreational use.

dillondoyle 5y ago
Yea please! Decriminalizing would be a great first step but won't cut out the cartels and gangs and adulteration (kind word for poisoning..) Would also love to see over the counter narcan. suboxone for any who wants it without the compliance burden.
- slapshot 5y ago
  Narcan is available "behind the counter" in most states. You have to ask for it, but a prescription isn't required.[1] [1] https://www.cvs.com/content/prescription-drug-abuse/save-a-life https://www.cvs.com/content/prescription-drug-abuse/save-a-l...
  - dillondoyle 5y ago
    I know there were a few people organizing on reddit too where they would ship it if you can't access it easily too! I think it was a lady on /r/opiates

Tiktaalik 5y ago

Yep. It's not an opioid epidemic or crisis, it's a toxic drug crisis. The drugs are poisoned. No one knows what's in them. There's a drug test site in my city that regularly posts examples of what they find on twitter. Totally random ultra dangerous poisons in party drugs. All the time. Here's an example: a drug not safe for humans in a test sample of MDMA. https://twitter.com/GYDTcanada/status/1477444546480984065?s=20 https://twitter.com/GYDTcanada/status/1477444546480984065?s=... People are dying because they're doing some thing and they have no idea what it is. It's impossible to use drugs safely in such a situation.

krona 5y ago
Are you saying coroners aren't doing toxicology reports, or something else?
- Tiktaalik 5y ago
  I'm sure the coroners reports are complete and accurate, but the way this has been portrayed in the media is as "overdoses" and hand waved as an opioid issue. The reality is more complex and the issue is beyond opioids. Yes these are "overdoses" but when the contents of the drug is not truly what the drug user is told, the drug user has no way to know what the safe dose is of the drug they are using. Drug use has become a game of russian roulette as no one has any knowledge of what is in the drugs and there's no real safe dosage.