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My Windows 7 hasn't been rebooted for the last 22 days. I'm not sure I'm that impressed with fast booting.

smiler 15y ago
Did you look at the article? Microsoft has data that says roughly 50% of people shutdown their PCs. So clearly, a lot of people do care about fast booting
- pointyhat 15y ago
  Yes but that's just an education issue. You don't need to shut them down all the time. Perhaps they should make the whole shutdown/sleep/hibernate thing more intuitive.
  - cryptoz 15y ago
    Standby modes still use electricity that drains battery life and draws unnecessary power from the grid. It may be faster for the user, but it's not necessarily better for them. Also, I haven't used Windows laptops in a while, but the Sleep mode on XP was really terrible - if I selected Start -> Shutdown and then closed the lid, when I came back and opened the lid I would find Windows resuming the shutdown procedure due to automatic sleep mode. Fast boot times are very important because there are lots of people who do need to turn their machines off. Maybe Microsoft have fixed various usability problems, but the electricity ones still stand. Why have running electronics that you're not using?
    - goblin89 15y ago
      Doesn't turning machine off and on each time shorten life of various its components? That way, a user would need to buy a new one sooner, which is definitely not better for them and the environment. I'd agree with grandparent in that most people normally do not need to turn their machines off completely and are better using sleep mode / hibernate, and this is the thing that needs optimization in the first place.
      - seabee 15y ago
        > Doesn't turning machine off and on each time shorten life of various its components? More so than 8+ hours of use, do you think? I've heard the myth often enough, though never any evidence either way.
        pointyhat 15y ago
        CCFL backlights, hard disks, CPU fans and solder joints all fail during thermal cycling.
      - polshaw 15y ago
        The only thing that could be argued to have its life shortened to an extent that was relevant is the HDD. And this is powered off with any of sleep/ hibernate/ power off.

Did you look at the article? Microsoft has data that says roughly 50% of people shutdown their PCs. So clearly, a lot of people do care about fast booting

pointyhat 15y ago
Yes but that's just an education issue. You don't need to shut them down all the time. Perhaps they should make the whole shutdown/sleep/hibernate thing more intuitive.
- cryptoz 15y ago
  Standby modes still use electricity that drains battery life and draws unnecessary power from the grid. It may be faster for the user, but it's not necessarily better for them. Also, I haven't used Windows laptops in a while, but the Sleep mode on XP was really terrible - if I selected Start -> Shutdown and then closed the lid, when I came back and opened the lid I would find Windows resuming the shutdown procedure due to automatic sleep mode. Fast boot times are very important because there are lots of people who do need to turn their machines off. Maybe Microsoft have fixed various usability problems, but the electricity ones still stand. Why have running electronics that you're not using?
  - goblin89 15y ago
    Doesn't turning machine off and on each time shorten life of various its components? That way, a user would need to buy a new one sooner, which is definitely not better for them and the environment. I'd agree with grandparent in that most people normally do not need to turn their machines off completely and are better using sleep mode / hibernate, and this is the thing that needs optimization in the first place.
    - seabee 15y ago
      > Doesn't turning machine off and on each time shorten life of various its components? More so than 8+ hours of use, do you think? I've heard the myth often enough, though never any evidence either way.
      - pointyhat 15y ago
        CCFL backlights, hard disks, CPU fans and solder joints all fail during thermal cycling.
    - polshaw 15y ago
      The only thing that could be argued to have its life shortened to an extent that was relevant is the HDD. And this is powered off with any of sleep/ hibernate/ power off.