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I wish the president had used this opportunity to support real patent reform. That could've been a huge step toward supporting startups and job creation.

by learc83 15y ago

danmaz74 15y ago
Unfortunately, any such proposal would for sure bring about heavy flak fire from the Republican party (and probably from the more big-corporations-interest-sensitive Democratic representatives too) as a socialistic, un-American attitude, with the risk of stopping the whole show.
ig1 15y ago
How many people do you know who didn't create a startup because of patents ? I'm not saying patent reform isn't important, but it's probably not even in the top-100 problems the average startup faces.
- mslate 15y ago
  I think that's not how OP was thinking about it. People may not be able to create a startup--or even think to do so--because someone else's patented product could be unavailable to them (due to monopoly pricing), not because they feared that their final product wouldn't be strongly patentable. The number of people who are prohibited from even being be able to obtain the knowledge to innovate is uncountable. Of course it's a trade-off between incentivizing innovation on one hand and enabling the spread of knowledge on the other, but needless to say the number of people who didn't create a startup because of patents is inestimable (not inestimably high, just inestimable).
HistoryInAction 15y ago
Protect IP Act passed today, I believe, which is a real bummer for actual patent reform that will promote innovation, since the system was just shifted from a 'first to invent' to a 'first to file,' supporting patent farming/fencing and litigation. Bummer :(
- xorglorb 15y ago
  It passed? I haven't been able to find anything about it passing, and GovTrack[0] still shows that neither the house nor senate has voted on it. [0]: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-968 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-968
- dctoedt 15y ago
  Protect IP didn't pass; it was the America Invents Act (patent reform).
  - HistoryInAction 15y ago
    Thanks for the correction. I keep mixing the two up :-\

I wish the president had used this opportunity to support real patent reform. That could've been a huge step toward supporting startups and job creation.

by learc83 15y ago

I wish the president had used this opportunity to support real patent reform. That could've been a huge step toward supporting startups and job creation.

danmaz74 15y ago

Unfortunately, any such proposal would for sure bring about heavy flak fire from the Republican party (and probably from the more big-corporations-interest-sensitive Democratic representatives too) as a socialistic, un-American attitude, with the risk of stopping the whole show.

ig1 15y ago

How many people do you know who didn't create a startup because of patents ? I'm not saying patent reform isn't important, but it's probably not even in the top-100 problems the average startup faces.

mslate 15y ago
I think that's not how OP was thinking about it. People may not be able to create a startup--or even think to do so--because someone else's patented product could be unavailable to them (due to monopoly pricing), not because they feared that their final product wouldn't be strongly patentable. The number of people who are prohibited from even being be able to obtain the knowledge to innovate is uncountable. Of course it's a trade-off between incentivizing innovation on one hand and enabling the spread of knowledge on the other, but needless to say the number of people who didn't create a startup because of patents is inestimable (not inestimably high, just inestimable).

HistoryInAction 15y ago

Protect IP Act passed today, I believe, which is a real bummer for actual patent reform that will promote innovation, since the system was just shifted from a 'first to invent' to a 'first to file,' supporting patent farming/fencing and litigation. Bummer :(

xorglorb 15y ago
It passed? I haven't been able to find anything about it passing, and GovTrack[0] still shows that neither the house nor senate has voted on it. [0]: http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-968 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s112-968
dctoedt 15y ago
Protect IP didn't pass; it was the America Invents Act (patent reform).
- HistoryInAction 15y ago
  Thanks for the correction. I keep mixing the two up :-\