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> The article appears to attribute all accidental poisoning to fentanyl. That seems like an error. I don't think it does. Sure, they throw out the 100k overdo

by mlyle 5y ago

> The article appears to attribute all accidental poisoning to fentanyl. That seems like an error. I don't think it does. Sure, they throw out the 100k overdoses number at the end, which isn't specific to fentanyl, but the other numbers they cite are around 40k/year and a run rate of 64k/year by Deceber 2021. Current data is here: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/drug-overdose-data.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/drug-overdose-data.htm It's about 62k deaths from synthetic opioids/year (excluding methadone) at the end of the series-- the vast majority of these are fentanyl. Plus a bunch of heroin deaths which are rapidly becoming "really fentanyl" deaths. And that's up to April, not December.

jeffbee 5y ago
That data is for all ages. If you go to WISQARS and filter for ages 18-45, which is the subject of the news site's article, it looks to me like the numbers they are giving in the article are the same as the total number of accidental poisoning.
- mlyle 5y ago
  They're pulling from this fact sheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0szR2Ua9v0Sr91YhDD7gPrXsDkHxDvP/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0szR2Ua9v0Sr91YhDD7gPrXsDk... Topic 1 is on ages 18-45: more deaths from fentanyl than from... The later topics are on all ages. The fact sheet attributes 24k deaths in the age range to fentanyl in 2019. WISQARS accidental injuries from poisoning in the age range were 38k in 2019. 2/3rds in that age range being fentanyl is totally plausible. https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D157;jsessionid=7A04C7DC8D17F0A5FA2103363BB7 https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D157;jsessioni... has the broken down data. They have 36,907 deaths in 2020 from 18-45 with T40.4-- "other synthetic opioids excluding methadone". FAF is calling all deaths from synthetic opioids fentanyl, which isn't quite true but it's very likely close to true.

by mlyle 5y ago

jeffbee 5y ago

That data is for all ages. If you go to WISQARS and filter for ages 18-45, which is the subject of the news site's article, it looks to me like the numbers they are giving in the article are the same as the total number of accidental poisoning.

mlyle 5y ago
They're pulling from this fact sheet: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0szR2Ua9v0Sr91YhDD7gPrXsDkHxDvP/view https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S0szR2Ua9v0Sr91YhDD7gPrXsDk... Topic 1 is on ages 18-45: more deaths from fentanyl than from... The later topics are on all ages. The fact sheet attributes 24k deaths in the age range to fentanyl in 2019. WISQARS accidental injuries from poisoning in the age range were 38k in 2019. 2/3rds in that age range being fentanyl is totally plausible. https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D157;jsessionid=7A04C7DC8D17F0A5FA2103363BB7 https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D157;jsessioni... has the broken down data. They have 36,907 deaths in 2020 from 18-45 with T40.4-- "other synthetic opioids excluding methadone". FAF is calling all deaths from synthetic opioids fentanyl, which isn't quite true but it's very likely close to true.