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I specifically asked you to not rely on grainy satellite image speculation, yet you proceed to rely on grainy satellite image speculation. There are countless

I specifically asked you to not rely on grainy satellite image speculation, yet you proceed to rely on grainy satellite image speculation. There are countless reasons why a building might be there one day and look differently a while later. Renovation, relocation, temporary decoration, disaster, weather, different time of day/year, different camera, different postprocessing, etc. Maybe a mosque even was used as a training site for violent extremists and was transformed/demolished for that reason. Maybe one photo is doctored. Maybe PRC is populated and ruled by comic book villains that do Wicked Evil Stuff for no discernable reason. Scrutiny is required. Yet ideologues act as if "genocide" is the only possible answer. Unspeakably deranged. Ironically, this propaganda campaign makes it easy to understand how Nazi Germany could get to the point of industrial genocide. Because it turns out the people are eager to believe deranged, racist, hateful conspiracy theories about the "enemy", in this case the Chinese Communists, as long as the mass media plays along. On an unrelated note, anti-Asian hate crimes are way up in America. Little Eichmanns.

dillondoyle 5y ago
if you clicked the links there are also on the ground photos. i believe scrutiny is required when reading anything you write on this site, based on this and past comments.
- pphysch 5y ago
  You don't have an argument, so you resort to ad hominem (which is against HN rules). Incredible. Happy new year.
  - chillage 5y ago
    Yeah dude some of the linked satellite photos are pretty clear even for a layperson and as OP says there are direct on the ground photos as well. The investigative group Bellingcat also has a pretty good history of journalism, I'd suggest you check out their background and works. For additional info, there are multiple books written on the topic as well, ex: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5968247-dragon-fighter https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5968247-dragon-fighter https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8137115-the-uyghurs https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8137115-the-uyghurs https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57894290-menace https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57894290-menace You can find many more if you do a Google search
    - pphysch 5y ago
      I am intimately familiar with Bellingcat's history of being funded by Western governments, laundering Western intelligence and outright fabricating "evidence" like the OPCW draft letter or the Navalny phone call. They are the furthest thing from a reliable, trustworthy source on geopolitical matters concerning Washington's opponents. For the last time, if a literal genocide of millions of people is happening in 2022, and perpetrated by the public enemy #1 of the only media superpower on the planet, there would be primary evidence everywhere. Yet all you guys can do is point to a mountain of bullshit and say "go find the needle". Cowardly and disrespectful.
      - chillage 5y ago
        I did link to several books which provide primary accounts. But that aside, could you cite any of the info you quoted on Bellingcat, specifically its fabrication of evidence? I recently picked up a book on them, but have not read it yet, so would be curious to read your perspective as well. Thanks!
        pphysch 5y ago
        "Primary accounts" or primary evidence? Give me $1,000 and I'll produce a video of an Asian-looking person alleging any atrocity you want. Aaron Maté has done a lot of thorough investigative journalism into Bellingcat's lies and shady affiliations with Western intelligence.

dillondoyle 5y ago

if you clicked the links there are also on the ground photos. i believe scrutiny is required when reading anything you write on this site, based on this and past comments.

pphysch 5y ago
You don't have an argument, so you resort to ad hominem (which is against HN rules). Incredible. Happy new year.
- chillage 5y ago
  Yeah dude some of the linked satellite photos are pretty clear even for a layperson and as OP says there are direct on the ground photos as well. The investigative group Bellingcat also has a pretty good history of journalism, I'd suggest you check out their background and works. For additional info, there are multiple books written on the topic as well, ex: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5968247-dragon-fighter https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5968247-dragon-fighter https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8137115-the-uyghurs https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8137115-the-uyghurs https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57894290-menace https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/57894290-menace You can find many more if you do a Google search
  - pphysch 5y ago
    I am intimately familiar with Bellingcat's history of being funded by Western governments, laundering Western intelligence and outright fabricating "evidence" like the OPCW draft letter or the Navalny phone call. They are the furthest thing from a reliable, trustworthy source on geopolitical matters concerning Washington's opponents. For the last time, if a literal genocide of millions of people is happening in 2022, and perpetrated by the public enemy #1 of the only media superpower on the planet, there would be primary evidence everywhere. Yet all you guys can do is point to a mountain of bullshit and say "go find the needle". Cowardly and disrespectful.
    - chillage 5y ago
      I did link to several books which provide primary accounts. But that aside, could you cite any of the info you quoted on Bellingcat, specifically its fabrication of evidence? I recently picked up a book on them, but have not read it yet, so would be curious to read your perspective as well. Thanks!
      - pphysch 5y ago
        "Primary accounts" or primary evidence? Give me $1,000 and I'll produce a video of an Asian-looking person alleging any atrocity you want. Aaron Maté has done a lot of thorough investigative journalism into Bellingcat's lies and shady affiliations with Western intelligence.