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Here's an interesting video about an increase in sports-related deaths and heart-attacks. Maybe it's related? https://rumble.com/vpnxkr-are-these-side-effects

Here's an interesting video about an increase in sports-related deaths and heart-attacks. Maybe it's related? https://rumble.com/vpnxkr-are-these-side-effects-extremely-rare.html https://rumble.com/vpnxkr-are-these-side-effects-extremely-r...

newacc9 5y ago
There's funeral directors on youtube and bitchute that say their workload has increased 5x and the deaths are all heart related.
- 542458 5y ago
  That doesn’t pass smell test to me. A 5x increase in workload for funeral homes would mean ballpark 5x as many deaths. That would be apocalyptic and impossible to miss. Every ER doc and ambulance driver in the US would be talking about it. For reference, the 2020 death rate is only about 1.15x the 2019 rate due to covid.
- joenathanone 5y ago
  Link(s)?
  - newacc9 5y ago
    - 542458 5y ago
      This isn't some everyday funeral home director - this fellow had previously been in the alt-news (https://fullfact.org/health/funeral-director-interview/ https://fullfact.org/health/funeral-director-interview/), with baseless claims like facemasks causing pneumonia or that all the people who died in care homes were euthanized using midazolam or that the covid vaccines were never tested (at all) before deployment. I would not consider him an authoritative or unbiased source.
- truffdog 5y ago
  That's a potential COVID complication, right?
- cycrutchfield 5y ago
  I too get my trusted news from random YouTube sources
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BillyTheKing 5y ago
it's not really a video about increase of deaths and heart-attacks - it's just a video that compiles all sorts of sport-related deaths and heart-attacks, we do not actually know if there's an increase or not, since no data from before 2020 was presented
542458 5y ago
Sudden cardiac death has always been surprisingly frequent in healthy athletes, so there’s a lot of room for observational bias here. (2016) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/ > A recent estimate of SCD incidence ranged from 1 in 40,000 to 1 in 80,000 athletes per year.
- csee 5y ago
  > surprisingly frequent in healthy athletes More common than in general population?
  - jack_squat 5y ago
    My understanding is cardiac deaths early in life are mostly caused by congenital issues that are more likely to shake out under stress, and those late in life are dominated by issues acquired via lifestyle. Among people under 35 (most athletes) athletes are at significantly higher risk. It's possible tables turn later in life, can't really find a source. Anecdotally I knew two people growing up who died suddenly of congenital heart issues, and both were athletes.
- daenz 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballer... 21 in 2021 3 in 2020 3 in 2019 4 in 2018 7 in 2017 8 in 2016 9 in 2015 5 in 2014 10 in 2013 8 in 2012 3 in 2011 9 in 2010 Something is different about 2021. I'm not a data analyst, but maybe somebody can quantify how 2021 is an outlier.
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  - 542458 5y ago
    That’s not a complete list for any year, so comparisons of counts is meaningless - again, lots of room for biases to creep in here.
JaimeThompson 5y ago
[1] is featured on the channel you liked as an expert but it appears that he has some issues / trouble being factual. [1] https://byrambridle.com/ https://byrambridle.com/

newacc9 5y ago

There's funeral directors on youtube and bitchute that say their workload has increased 5x and the deaths are all heart related.

542458 5y ago
That doesn’t pass smell test to me. A 5x increase in workload for funeral homes would mean ballpark 5x as many deaths. That would be apocalyptic and impossible to miss. Every ER doc and ambulance driver in the US would be talking about it. For reference, the 2020 death rate is only about 1.15x the 2019 rate due to covid.
joenathanone 5y ago
Link(s)?
- newacc9 5y ago
  - 542458 5y ago
    This isn't some everyday funeral home director - this fellow had previously been in the alt-news (https://fullfact.org/health/funeral-director-interview/ https://fullfact.org/health/funeral-director-interview/), with baseless claims like facemasks causing pneumonia or that all the people who died in care homes were euthanized using midazolam or that the covid vaccines were never tested (at all) before deployment. I would not consider him an authoritative or unbiased source.
truffdog 5y ago
That's a potential COVID complication, right?
cycrutchfield 5y ago
I too get my trusted news from random YouTube sources

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BillyTheKing 5y ago

it's not really a video about increase of deaths and heart-attacks - it's just a video that compiles all sorts of sport-related deaths and heart-attacks, we do not actually know if there's an increase or not, since no data from before 2020 was presented

542458 5y ago

Sudden cardiac death has always been surprisingly frequent in healthy athletes, so there’s a lot of room for observational bias here. (2016) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4969030/ > A recent estimate of SCD incidence ranged from 1 in 40,000 to 1 in 80,000 athletes per year.

csee 5y ago
> surprisingly frequent in healthy athletes More common than in general population?
- jack_squat 5y ago
  My understanding is cardiac deaths early in life are mostly caused by congenital issues that are more likely to shake out under stress, and those late in life are dominated by issues acquired via lifestyle. Among people under 35 (most athletes) athletes are at significantly higher risk. It's possible tables turn later in life, can't really find a source. Anecdotally I knew two people growing up who died suddenly of congenital heart issues, and both were athletes.
daenz 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballer... 21 in 2021 3 in 2020 3 in 2019 4 in 2018 7 in 2017 8 in 2016 9 in 2015 5 in 2014 10 in 2013 8 in 2012 3 in 2011 9 in 2010 Something is different about 2021. I'm not a data analyst, but maybe somebody can quantify how 2021 is an outlier.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- 542458 5y ago
  That’s not a complete list for any year, so comparisons of counts is meaningless - again, lots of room for biases to creep in here.

JaimeThompson 5y ago

[1] is featured on the channel you liked as an expert but it appears that he has some issues / trouble being factual. [1] https://byrambridle.com/ https://byrambridle.com/