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Honest question: If in over 10 years you've contributed to discussions so infrequently that you've barely accumulated 100 karma - including this post that acco

by sbarre 5y ago

Honest question: If in over 10 years you've contributed to discussions so infrequently that you've barely accumulated 100 karma - including this post that accounts for a third or more of your karma now - and (as you said in another thread) you think you would only downvote a max of 3 times per year... Why do you want it?

timbit42 5y ago
Just yesterday someone called me "little shit" on here and I have no recourse. I'd like to be able to report that to the admins, but apparently the admins are OK with this type of behavior on here.
- JohnTHaller 5y ago
  You can't downvote replies to you.
  - timbit42 5y ago
    I'm aware. Notice I didn't ask to downvote, but to report to the admins.
- dang 5y ago
  What on earth makes you say that the admins are OK with that? It's obviously against the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You can report comments by flagging them or in egregious cases by emailing hn@ycombinator.com.
  - timbit42 5y ago
    I don't have the right to flag comments.
    - jjgreen 5y ago
      Are you sure? Click on the time on the comment, then you get a detailed view of that comment -- I think you should see the "flag" button there (a bit of a round route, for sure).
    - dang 5y ago
      Everyone with karma > 30 has the right to flag comments. jjgreen is correct. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#cflag https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#cflag.
37 5y ago
Thanks for the honest question! >including this post that accounts for a third or more of your karma now (Holy crow! Thank you everyone!) Clearly I don't care that much, which is why it took me 10 years to ask the question... I know it's just internet points, etc etc. I guess when I see someone saying something that I absolutely know is objectively wrong, I would like to show my disapproval without sitting down and actually fleshing out a response. I'm not the best at putting my thoughts into keystrokes (this little response took me a good 30 minutes to write). Also (sidenote) I don't love how I had to scroll through a bunch of comments to find this response, or even to know that you responded to me. I wish there was some "notification" or something that let me know that you cared enough to take the time to reply to my comment.
- rognjen 5y ago
  > I would like to show my disapproval without sitting down and actually fleshing out a response. I think this is exactly the reason why there is a limit. That downvote wouldn't contribute to the discussion whereas your fleshed out response would. Also, if I recall correctly, when you downvote you're supposed to explain why. And ofc up and down votes should indicate contributions to discussion. Meaning that if something is incorrect or you don't agree with it, doesn't necessarily mean that it should be downvoted.
- sbarre 5y ago
  > I guess when I see someone saying something that I absolutely know is objectively wrong, I would like to show my disapproval without sitting down and actually fleshing out a response. I mean no disrespect in this follow-up question, but given how little you've participated in this community's discourse, do you still feel like you've earned that anonymous and concrete voice of disapproval? I mean "concrete" here in that a downvote can actually help bury/remove a comment, and so you have actual power to influence this community when you have that ability. Edit: to your "note" about finding replies, if go to your profile, you can view a list of all your comments, along with replies to them. It's not great but it's easier than scrolling a whole comments section. You can also use something like "HN Enhancement Suite", a browser plugin that improves the overall UI of Hacker News (although I think you said you mostly browse on a phone so that won't help you there).
bigodbiel 5y ago
I’m pretty sure the ratio of lurkers and posters on HN is not as even as other social media platforms’.
- sbarre 5y ago
  I'd love to see those stats! I think the conventionally accepted stats for mainstream social media is that 10% of the users account for 80% of the content, or something similar to that? I don't know if HN has ever published these kinds of stats but it would be interesting to see.

by sbarre 5y ago

timbit42 5y ago

Just yesterday someone called me "little shit" on here and I have no recourse. I'd like to be able to report that to the admins, but apparently the admins are OK with this type of behavior on here.

JohnTHaller 5y ago
You can't downvote replies to you.
- timbit42 5y ago
  I'm aware. Notice I didn't ask to downvote, but to report to the admins.
dang 5y ago
What on earth makes you say that the admins are OK with that? It's obviously against the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. You can report comments by flagging them or in egregious cases by emailing hn@ycombinator.com.
- timbit42 5y ago
  I don't have the right to flag comments.
  - jjgreen 5y ago
    Are you sure? Click on the time on the comment, then you get a detailed view of that comment -- I think you should see the "flag" button there (a bit of a round route, for sure).
  - dang 5y ago
    Everyone with karma > 30 has the right to flag comments. jjgreen is correct. This is in the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#cflag https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html#cflag.

37 5y ago

Thanks for the honest question! >including this post that accounts for a third or more of your karma now (Holy crow! Thank you everyone!) Clearly I don't care that much, which is why it took me 10 years to ask the question... I know it's just internet points, etc etc. I guess when I see someone saying something that I absolutely know is objectively wrong, I would like to show my disapproval without sitting down and actually fleshing out a response. I'm not the best at putting my thoughts into keystrokes (this little response took me a good 30 minutes to write). Also (sidenote) I don't love how I had to scroll through a bunch of comments to find this response, or even to know that you responded to me. I wish there was some "notification" or something that let me know that you cared enough to take the time to reply to my comment.

rognjen 5y ago
> I would like to show my disapproval without sitting down and actually fleshing out a response. I think this is exactly the reason why there is a limit. That downvote wouldn't contribute to the discussion whereas your fleshed out response would. Also, if I recall correctly, when you downvote you're supposed to explain why. And ofc up and down votes should indicate contributions to discussion. Meaning that if something is incorrect or you don't agree with it, doesn't necessarily mean that it should be downvoted.
sbarre 5y ago
> I guess when I see someone saying something that I absolutely know is objectively wrong, I would like to show my disapproval without sitting down and actually fleshing out a response. I mean no disrespect in this follow-up question, but given how little you've participated in this community's discourse, do you still feel like you've earned that anonymous and concrete voice of disapproval? I mean "concrete" here in that a downvote can actually help bury/remove a comment, and so you have actual power to influence this community when you have that ability. Edit: to your "note" about finding replies, if go to your profile, you can view a list of all your comments, along with replies to them. It's not great but it's easier than scrolling a whole comments section. You can also use something like "HN Enhancement Suite", a browser plugin that improves the overall UI of Hacker News (although I think you said you mostly browse on a phone so that won't help you there).

bigodbiel 5y ago

I’m pretty sure the ratio of lurkers and posters on HN is not as even as other social media platforms’.

sbarre 5y ago
I'd love to see those stats! I think the conventionally accepted stats for mainstream social media is that 10% of the users account for 80% of the content, or something similar to that? I don't know if HN has ever published these kinds of stats but it would be interesting to see.