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It doesn’t follow that errors will be catestrophic. It could be the car just fails to handle edge case situations and just stops… granted on a highway that’s ba
by onethought 5y ago
It doesn’t follow that errors will be catestrophic. It could be the car just fails to handle edge case situations and just stops… granted on a highway that’s bad but everywhere else, that’s a hassle to traffic at worst. Also highway full self driving is much closer to being a solved problem.
Even the failures you see in the beta of Tesla FSD, aren’t catestrophic. The worst I’ve seen is a curb strikes in terms of actual “accidents”
- tjoff 5y agoWhat you are describing is level 4. And if tesla were anywhere near that that would be freaking brilliant. Tesla FSD has many deaths and countless serious accidents under it's belt. Which doesn't necessarily have to be that bad, but as expected a computer doesn't make the same kind of mistakes that a human does and the kind of mistakes that tesla does doesn't inspire confidence (but rather nightmare fuel that you just can't wake up from). They should be banned until they have level 4 and take responsibility for their cars actions. Blaming it on a human driver and calling it a day is ludicrous.
- yissp 5y ago> a computer doesn't make the same kind of mistakes that a human does I think this is particularly problematic because with other humans, we can at least develop a sense of what types of mistakes they tend to make and try to adjust our driving accordingly. Things like not driving in another person's blind-spot, etc. but also more subtle stuff. I feel like there a sort of hive-mind that develops amongst drivers and probably makes things safer than they would otherwise be.
- onethought 5y agoSorry. I haven’t seen any evidence of anything you said. There have been 0 deaths from FSD and as far as I’m aware only 1 crash. Do you mean autopilot? Or navigate on auto pilot?
- dncornholio 5y agoI just looked up a random video of someone testing FSD 10.8 and in the first few minutes, it failed to signal before changing lanes and it almost caused an accident. All the while the driver is saying how good it is and how comfortable he is.. The car drives not smoothly at all and does random braking when around pedestrians. The car also features a yoke instead of a wheel. Which makes holding the yoke while autopilot is driving almost impossible. Autonomous driving is a mess.
- onethought 5y agoSo my point exactly… it’s not catastrophic… it’s just shitty. “Nearly accident” is the same as “not an accident” and definitely not: catastrophic .
- lolc 5y agoFunny how the discussion of a serious system failure in aviation leads to a comment about how "it's just shitty" in a car.
- onethought 5y agoGiven one happens at ~50km/h at 0 altitude vs ~400km/h at 30,000ft... makes sense. Just like bumping into someone while walking is way less serious than bumping into another car while driving.
- PKop 5y agoYou just keep adding nonsense to the discussion. Is self driving going to be limited to 50km/h? No it's not, so what are you talking about? Is crashing your car at 50km/h not potentially deadly or dangerous? Of course it is. So, what are you talking about? When planes typically fly in the air, how many other planes are nearby? 0 When cars drive on the road, how many other cars or pedestrians are nearby? Often many Just because planes get completely obliterated at the speeds they travel doesn't mean cars going much slower in accidents come out unscathed. This is like elementary school stuff here.