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Would you also support a total ban on hunting wild animals in the West? Or are the animals only "exotic" when they're consumed by Chinese people?

AnotherGoodName 5y ago
We already have a good definition of exotic animal trading so we don't need to strawman any larger scope here. I 100% support the shutdown of exotic animal trading. From the Wuhan wet markets carrying animals from the corners of the globe for supposed medicinal benefits to the idiots in the west with pet tigers.
- adolph 5y ago
  What do "Wuhan wet markets" have to do with anything? From the article: The seafood market was almost certainly “just” an early superspreader site, rather than the site of the original spillover event. No bats or pangolins at all, and relatively few mammals of any kind, appear to have been sold at that market, and no sign of SARS-CoV2 was ever found in any of the animals despite searching.
  - AnotherGoodName 5y ago
    Widely accepted as the source of the coronavirus outbreak.
    - adolph 5y ago
      I wonder how that came to be and retained as the received knowledge? Who was the person or organization who identified which specific market?
      - AnotherGoodName 5y ago
        You can read about it here https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/11/19/1040390/covid-wuhan-natural-spillover-wuhan-wet-market-huanan/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/11/19/1040390/covid-wu...
        adolph 5y ago
        It was received knowledge well before 11/21, I remember well from that morning on NPR [0]. I read that article and the academic paper [1] behind it. There is nothing there other than thin correlation. No evidence to say a single zoonotic exposure occurred, much less many over several months, over that human to human transmission occurred there. Correlation is great for starting an investigation such as Snow’s [2]. After the map Snow established causation and a mechanism, Worobey does nothing. 0. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/29/800725826/why-wet-markets-are-the-perfect-place-to-spread-disease https://www.npr.org/2020/01/29/800725826/why-wet-markets-are... 1. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outb...
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AnotherGoodName 5y ago

We already have a good definition of exotic animal trading so we don't need to strawman any larger scope here. I 100% support the shutdown of exotic animal trading. From the Wuhan wet markets carrying animals from the corners of the globe for supposed medicinal benefits to the idiots in the west with pet tigers.

adolph 5y ago
What do "Wuhan wet markets" have to do with anything? From the article: The seafood market was almost certainly “just” an early superspreader site, rather than the site of the original spillover event. No bats or pangolins at all, and relatively few mammals of any kind, appear to have been sold at that market, and no sign of SARS-CoV2 was ever found in any of the animals despite searching.
- AnotherGoodName 5y ago
  Widely accepted as the source of the coronavirus outbreak.
  - adolph 5y ago
    I wonder how that came to be and retained as the received knowledge? Who was the person or organization who identified which specific market?
    - AnotherGoodName 5y ago
      You can read about it here https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/11/19/1040390/covid-wuhan-natural-spillover-wuhan-wet-market-huanan/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/11/19/1040390/covid-wu...
      - adolph 5y ago
        It was received knowledge well before 11/21, I remember well from that morning on NPR [0]. I read that article and the academic paper [1] behind it. There is nothing there other than thin correlation. No evidence to say a single zoonotic exposure occurred, much less many over several months, over that human to human transmission occurred there. Correlation is great for starting an investigation such as Snow’s [2]. After the map Snow established causation and a mechanism, Worobey does nothing. 0. https://www.npr.org/2020/01/29/800725826/why-wet-markets-are-the-perfect-place-to-spread-disease https://www.npr.org/2020/01/29/800725826/why-wet-markets-are... 1. https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abm4454 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outbreak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1854_Broad_Street_cholera_outb...
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