3 ms·

How do you square this: > France retains its position as the leading exporter in Europe with a total exporter of 43.2 TWh with this: > because of europe we i

How do you square this: > France retains its position as the leading exporter in Europe with a total exporter of 43.2 TWh with this: > because of europe we import electricity from germany that is burning coal for it ? If you are such a keen observer on the electricity market, then surely you know that France is always importing from somewhere, and as its biggest neighbours, it is logical to see Germany there? There was indeed some bad timing with the maintenance of some of the reactors. It is not the decision of the government, but if the operator (EDF) and the regulator (ASN). And the EU has fuck all to do with it.

retinaros 5y ago
we do import electricty and 22% more in 2020 ,a trend that continued this year. and we import from germany that is burning coal. so I dont see what you missed here. our electricity is not green because we import german coal based electricity that is a fact. i know that france export some. but you know trade also means importing for different reasons like price for instance? and europe has to do with it because in france prices for electricity are not related to our infrastructure and us being fully nuclear but dictated by the european comission. you re welcome https://ec.europa.eu/energy/topics/markets-and-consumers/EU-energy-prices_en https://ec.europa.eu/energy/topics/markets-and-consumers/EU-...
- kergonath 5y ago
  > but you know trade also means importing for different reasons like price for instance? Price has no first-order effect on electricity imports. We just import what we need, otherwise we have a black out. We cannot “not import” when production is below demand and we cannot “over import” when price is low because we don’t have any meaningful storage. > and europe has to do with it because in france prices for electricity are not related to our infrastructure and us being fully nuclear but dictated by the european comission. France has never been fully nuclear. Some EU rules are bonkers and obviously there because of the agenda of some vehemently anti-nuclear countries, sure. But a lot of the stupidity also comes from the French government (see ARENH). Still, as I mentioned, price is not directly related to imports. Higher prices actually result in some industry stopping some plants, and a reduction of both use and imports.

retinaros 5y ago

we do import electricty and 22% more in 2020 ,a trend that continued this year. and we import from germany that is burning coal. so I dont see what you missed here. our electricity is not green because we import german coal based electricity that is a fact. i know that france export some. but you know trade also means importing for different reasons like price for instance? and europe has to do with it because in france prices for electricity are not related to our infrastructure and us being fully nuclear but dictated by the european comission. you re welcome https://ec.europa.eu/energy/topics/markets-and-consumers/EU-energy-prices_en https://ec.europa.eu/energy/topics/markets-and-consumers/EU-...

kergonath 5y ago
> but you know trade also means importing for different reasons like price for instance? Price has no first-order effect on electricity imports. We just import what we need, otherwise we have a black out. We cannot “not import” when production is below demand and we cannot “over import” when price is low because we don’t have any meaningful storage. > and europe has to do with it because in france prices for electricity are not related to our infrastructure and us being fully nuclear but dictated by the european comission. France has never been fully nuclear. Some EU rules are bonkers and obviously there because of the agenda of some vehemently anti-nuclear countries, sure. But a lot of the stupidity also comes from the French government (see ARENH). Still, as I mentioned, price is not directly related to imports. Higher prices actually result in some industry stopping some plants, and a reduction of both use and imports.