3 ms·

> oh and because of europe we import electricity from germany that is burning coal for it This is a gross over-simplification. Most European countries are both

> oh and because of europe we import electricity from germany that is burning coal for it This is a gross over-simplification. Most European countries are both importers and exporters at any point in time, but France is a notable net exporter, and actually stabilises the German grid. The French government is inconsistent and unbelievably short-sighted, but not because it wants more electric heating. We need to get rid of gas as soon as possible for any uses that does not absolutely require it. Electricity and heat pumps are safer and better for domestic uses.

retinaros 5y ago
gas is owned by russia and now thanks to biden germany. of course the french government wants gas to go away and electricity to be seen as green as we dont have any... why do you think germany pushes for labelling gas as green . net exporter or no as long as france imports electricity we shouldnt be able to say it is green and push people to move away from gas. especially when we see our nuclear reactors aging and being phased out. it is not overly simplified its just simple. now that russia push for gas all western media (beside germany that broke a deal with them) see it as evil. i remember not that long ago a nobel prize winning american president praising himself and being praised by journalists for pushing gas. I guess it,just proves energy,is political first
- kergonath 5y ago
  > why do you think germany pushes for labelling gas as green What makes you think I don’t know? ;) > as long as france imports electricity we shouldnt be able to say it is green Sure, the current system of certificates is a complete joke and utterly unfit for purpose (you can sell “green electricity” in the middle of winter if you also buy a document showing that the same amount was produced last summer in any other EU country). Under the current system it is mostly irrelevant because certificates are cheap. Hopefully the rules will be tightened in the next couple of months and then the green labelling will be a bit more meaningful (and electricity produced from coal in September won’t be “green” anymore). > especially when we see our nuclear reactors aging and being phased out. I think the French government realised at some point the shitshow it would be. They started walking back earlier promises about plant closures and words I’ve heard say that the life extensions won’t be a political problem. Now, new builds will be the problem of the next government. Please vote responsibly…
tcfhgj 5y ago
> The French government is inconsistent and unbelievably short-sighted, but not because it wants more electric heating. We need to get rid of gas as soon as possible for any uses that does not absolutely require it. Electricity and heat pumps are safer and better for domestic uses. you mean fossil gas gas can be used very well for storage, i.e. compensating renewables by storing its energy for long periods of time

retinaros 5y ago

gas is owned by russia and now thanks to biden germany. of course the french government wants gas to go away and electricity to be seen as green as we dont have any... why do you think germany pushes for labelling gas as green . net exporter or no as long as france imports electricity we shouldnt be able to say it is green and push people to move away from gas. especially when we see our nuclear reactors aging and being phased out. it is not overly simplified its just simple. now that russia push for gas all western media (beside germany that broke a deal with them) see it as evil. i remember not that long ago a nobel prize winning american president praising himself and being praised by journalists for pushing gas. I guess it,just proves energy,is political first

kergonath 5y ago
> why do you think germany pushes for labelling gas as green What makes you think I don’t know? ;) > as long as france imports electricity we shouldnt be able to say it is green Sure, the current system of certificates is a complete joke and utterly unfit for purpose (you can sell “green electricity” in the middle of winter if you also buy a document showing that the same amount was produced last summer in any other EU country). Under the current system it is mostly irrelevant because certificates are cheap. Hopefully the rules will be tightened in the next couple of months and then the green labelling will be a bit more meaningful (and electricity produced from coal in September won’t be “green” anymore). > especially when we see our nuclear reactors aging and being phased out. I think the French government realised at some point the shitshow it would be. They started walking back earlier promises about plant closures and words I’ve heard say that the life extensions won’t be a political problem. Now, new builds will be the problem of the next government. Please vote responsibly…

tcfhgj 5y ago

> The French government is inconsistent and unbelievably short-sighted, but not because it wants more electric heating. We need to get rid of gas as soon as possible for any uses that does not absolutely require it. Electricity and heat pumps are safer and better for domestic uses. you mean fossil gas gas can be used very well for storage, i.e. compensating renewables by storing its energy for long periods of time