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What do you have to say to the people who were denied a career or a life to certain extent because of their skin colour? > I can only see this as an extremely

by rq1 5y ago

What do you have to say to the people who were denied a career or a life to certain extent because of their skin colour? > I can only see this as an extremely selfish attempt to reignite conflict so as to improve their own and their groups perspectives to the detriment of the rest of society Yeah sure, you had slavery in mind right?

hagbard_c 5y ago
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > these issues have been solved a long time ago where I live I can't think of anywhere where that is true, but perhaps you can give us examples, even of places besides where you live. Usually I hear similar claims from people who are not directly targeted by the discrimination. They don't see it and (IME) don't want to have to deal with it. Racism must pass endless barriers to belief. No matter how great the evidence, people seem to demand more.
- wombatmobile 5y ago
  > as it stands these continuous attempts to bring up race at every opportune moment Listen to yourself. Your exaggerations and name-calling say more about your own internal state of mind then they do about the world. What can you learn about yourself?
  - dang 5y ago
    Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. It only makes everything worse. Crossing into personal attack is particularly not cool. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- comrh 5y ago
  Thinking racism has been a "solved" problem for a "long time" is just incredibly naive. Have you considered historical injustice still effect the present day? Have you considered other people's experiences when they tell you racism still exists and has a major impact on their lives?
dang 5y ago
Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. That's just as bad as starting them, and is explicitly against the site guidelines. "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- rq1 5y ago
  Sorry there, that was so obvious but I was so upset at the same time. I should have flagged it and walked away. Not sure if they are pure trolls though. You can sometimes hear the same discourse IRL. I can’t stand them.
  - dang 5y ago
    I agree, the word troll isn't that helpful here. But I think it deserves to survive in the phrase 'don't feed the trolls' since that is the wisest thing the internet ever said. It would be interesting to know the origin, actually—I wonder if anyone has traced it.
    - jcolman 5y ago
      FWIW, I asked about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29778358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29778358 There’s a link in the comments to this 2005 verion of the net.abuse FAQ, which references “Do not feed the trolls”: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq/troll-faq/ http://www.faqs.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq/troll-faq/ reply

by rq1 5y ago

hagbard_c 5y ago

wolverine876 5y ago
> these issues have been solved a long time ago where I live I can't think of anywhere where that is true, but perhaps you can give us examples, even of places besides where you live. Usually I hear similar claims from people who are not directly targeted by the discrimination. They don't see it and (IME) don't want to have to deal with it. Racism must pass endless barriers to belief. No matter how great the evidence, people seem to demand more.
wombatmobile 5y ago
> as it stands these continuous attempts to bring up race at every opportune moment Listen to yourself. Your exaggerations and name-calling say more about your own internal state of mind then they do about the world. What can you learn about yourself?
- dang 5y ago
  Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar, regardless of how wrong someone else is or you feel they are. It only makes everything worse. Crossing into personal attack is particularly not cool. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
comrh 5y ago
Thinking racism has been a "solved" problem for a "long time" is just incredibly naive. Have you considered historical injustice still effect the present day? Have you considered other people's experiences when they tell you racism still exists and has a major impact on their lives?

dang 5y ago

Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. That's just as bad as starting them, and is explicitly against the site guidelines. "Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." a.k.a. please don't feed the trolls https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

rq1 5y ago
Sorry there, that was so obvious but I was so upset at the same time. I should have flagged it and walked away. Not sure if they are pure trolls though. You can sometimes hear the same discourse IRL. I can’t stand them.
- dang 5y ago
  I agree, the word troll isn't that helpful here. But I think it deserves to survive in the phrase 'don't feed the trolls' since that is the wisest thing the internet ever said. It would be interesting to know the origin, actually—I wonder if anyone has traced it.
  - jcolman 5y ago
    FWIW, I asked about this here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29778358 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29778358 There’s a link in the comments to this 2005 verion of the net.abuse FAQ, which references “Do not feed the trolls”: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq/troll-faq/ http://www.faqs.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq/troll-faq/ reply