Yes, but what do YOU expect from an ideal IDE? That was the question. If you're targeting .NET or C++ development for Windows, there's not a lot of competition

Yes, but what do YOU expect from an ideal IDE? That was the question. If you're targeting .NET or C++ development for Windows, there's not a lot of competition to be able to claim that there's something substantially better. Rider, IMO, is on par, with better refactoring. However, VS debugger is still better.