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Emirates is a Flag Carrier for UAE, apparently owned by Dubai's government via 'Investment Corporation of Dubai.' There is, therefore, no meaningful distinctio

Emirates is a Flag Carrier for UAE, apparently owned by Dubai's government via 'Investment Corporation of Dubai.' There is, therefore, no meaningful distinction between it and its regulator, so don't hold your breath on that hope either. The FAA will demur; bet the rent money on that. We're talking UAE money here, and that means most of the US Senate is on speed dial. No FAA functionaries will be troubling UAE over this. The only hope one may legitimately cling to is that the problem space is mostly solved by the automation and the autopilot operators occupying the cockpits of these aircraft continue to not interfere with it too much.

jacquesm 5y ago
Airplane manufacturers and regulators being too close is not good, see the MAX MCAS issue, airlines should be completely firewalled from regulators for very obvious reasons. That's pretty bad. Here in NL was have a similar situation where the state is shareholder of KLM/AF leading to all kinds of bizarre decisions in recent times. But at least I'd hope that some people at the regulator would resign rather than avoid doing their jobs when safety is on the line.
- bumby 5y ago
  >airlines should be completely firewalled from regulators for very obvious reasons. Then we need to be prepared to fund the regulators appropriately. I think part of the problem is they are stretched so thin it becomes impossible to know enough about each system an individual regulator is expected to verify/certify.
- jhugo 5y ago
  In NL you do have some somewhat-external oversight in the form of the European Aviation Safety Agency. This does _sort of_ apply to UAE as well, in the sense that EASA and FAA do some oversight of Emirates because they use their airspace and airports. But obviously that doesn't rise to the level of oversight that a proper arms-length local regulator would be able to provide.

jacquesm 5y ago

Airplane manufacturers and regulators being too close is not good, see the MAX MCAS issue, airlines should be completely firewalled from regulators for very obvious reasons. That's pretty bad. Here in NL was have a similar situation where the state is shareholder of KLM/AF leading to all kinds of bizarre decisions in recent times. But at least I'd hope that some people at the regulator would resign rather than avoid doing their jobs when safety is on the line.

bumby 5y ago
>airlines should be completely firewalled from regulators for very obvious reasons. Then we need to be prepared to fund the regulators appropriately. I think part of the problem is they are stretched so thin it becomes impossible to know enough about each system an individual regulator is expected to verify/certify.
jhugo 5y ago
In NL you do have some somewhat-external oversight in the form of the European Aviation Safety Agency. This does _sort of_ apply to UAE as well, in the sense that EASA and FAA do some oversight of Emirates because they use their airspace and airports. But obviously that doesn't rise to the level of oversight that a proper arms-length local regulator would be able to provide.