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As multiple times already. I'm saying that e-commerce interest for crypto sad payment option is almost zero compared with other payment options. I've shown you

As multiple times already. I'm saying that e-commerce interest for crypto sad payment option is almost zero compared with other payment options. I've shown you multiple sources with stats. You've come up with limited edition virtual goods ( collectibles) and fan based investing which I've already stated is the only thing hodlers would spend there money on ( = 'investing', ugh). The latest stats found are from 2020, not 2017. You've shown none. No one in real life cares about crypto payments, because the 20 procent that have a median amount of 191$ did it as a bet/investment. The US is one of the richest countries where people would buy things with crypto, you haven't given a better country. Nobody cares in rl cares. Come on with real stats or proof. Then I could consider it for my e-commerce clients where there is 0% interest in crypto ( yes, outside of the US). Perhaps you are living in 2017 where there was a hype and it went away. It's 2017 all over, but now because of a pandemic.. This is really funny: NFT vs OpenSea vs crypto. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=OpenSea,Create%20nft,Buy%20nft,Bitcoin https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... Bitcoin interest in 2017 was even miles ahead of all the current useless FOMO going on. Interest is even fading away again. You're just reliving the past without acknowledging the end-result. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Bitcoin,Crypto,Corona https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... Note: digital currencies from countries is not what i consider any of the current solutions too. It will be a unrelated coin to the current existing ones.

rvz 5y ago
> You're just reliving the past without acknowledging the end-result. So that means 'this time' you know exactly what happens after this 'useless FOMO going on' crashes again? So Stripe, Coinbase, Shopify, BitPay, Circle.com are getting into something with low interest in the future because you rushed to Google Trends since you don't have any definitive sources on stablecoins, only Bitcoin? I never mentioned or argued for payments using Bitcoin in the first place and still no-one here has definitive and extensive sources on this for payments with stablecoins as it is extremely early and given the absence of clearer regulations on this as already admitted by you: [0] 'A lot of it is still going to uncharted territory.' [0] > Note: digital currencies from countries is not what i consider any of the current solutions too. It will be a unrelated coin to the current existing ones. And what is this 'unrelated coin to the current existing ones' you are mentioning? Do you have sources of its properties or are you speculating like everyone else? It is another way of saying 'It may or may not be a stablecoin' So no-one knows until the regulations around this are clearer. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29736645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29736645
- NicoJuicy 5y ago
  > So that means 'this time' you know exactly what happens after this 'useless FOMO going on' crashes again? I sold at 18 k in 2017, that was almost spot on. None of the fundamentals why i sold have changed. You could have just looked up stablecoin and give me a better trend if you even remotely bothered. Bitcoin is the top search. You can't even see the interest in stablecoin in comparison: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Bitcoin,%2Fg%2F11f760cfwp https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... The unrelated coin is one that is created by the countries themselves, there are currently 10 k. Coins, it would be naive to think that a country would adopt an existing coin since it's easy to create. Just read the news, none of them are adopting an existing one... It's also a minimal effort to look it up, if you bothered. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/22/the-fed-is-evaluating-whether-to-launch-a-digital-currency-and-in-what-form-powell-says.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/22/the-fed-is-evaluating-whethe... https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2021/html/ecb.pr210714~d99198ea23.en.html https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2021/html/ecb.pr2107... https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/12/30/mexicos-central-bank-to-launch-digital-currency-by-2024 https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/12/30/mexicos-cen... https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/china-moves-closer-to-launch-of-worlds-first-sovereign-digital-currency/44550 https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/china-moves-closer-... https://www.bobsguide.com/articles/uks-new-settlement-system-to-support-dlt/ https://www.bobsguide.com/articles/uks-new-settlement-system... Companies already implemented and removed it before. Bitpay, circle, coinbase is directly correlated to crypto. The other ones have like a 4 person team on it. It's a neglectible effort for the "what if" case. ( Eg. Stripe had > 4 k. Employees and 4-5 people working on crypto) Here's another one: https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/microsoft-drops-azure-blockchain/ https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/microsoft-drops-azure-blo... > Microsoft credited industry changes and declined interest in the product as the main reasons for discontinuing the marketing of Azure Blockchain. Declining interest also with AWS : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Amazon%20blockchain https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... It's not even reaching halve it's 2017 peak. But i understand, you don't have any resources to show that anyone actually cares outside of the FOMO. Note: if you consider El Salvador that tweets "bought the dip" every month as a serious comparison to the real world, that's pretty silly. They wanted the first movers advantage, let's see how that plays out in reality.

rvz 5y ago

> You're just reliving the past without acknowledging the end-result. So that means 'this time' you know exactly what happens after this 'useless FOMO going on' crashes again? So Stripe, Coinbase, Shopify, BitPay, Circle.com are getting into something with low interest in the future because you rushed to Google Trends since you don't have any definitive sources on stablecoins, only Bitcoin? I never mentioned or argued for payments using Bitcoin in the first place and still no-one here has definitive and extensive sources on this for payments with stablecoins as it is extremely early and given the absence of clearer regulations on this as already admitted by you: [0] 'A lot of it is still going to uncharted territory.' [0] > Note: digital currencies from countries is not what i consider any of the current solutions too. It will be a unrelated coin to the current existing ones. And what is this 'unrelated coin to the current existing ones' you are mentioning? Do you have sources of its properties or are you speculating like everyone else? It is another way of saying 'It may or may not be a stablecoin' So no-one knows until the regulations around this are clearer. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29736645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29736645

NicoJuicy 5y ago
> So that means 'this time' you know exactly what happens after this 'useless FOMO going on' crashes again? I sold at 18 k in 2017, that was almost spot on. None of the fundamentals why i sold have changed. You could have just looked up stablecoin and give me a better trend if you even remotely bothered. Bitcoin is the top search. You can't even see the interest in stablecoin in comparison: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Bitcoin,%2Fg%2F11f760cfwp https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... The unrelated coin is one that is created by the countries themselves, there are currently 10 k. Coins, it would be naive to think that a country would adopt an existing coin since it's easy to create. Just read the news, none of them are adopting an existing one... It's also a minimal effort to look it up, if you bothered. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/22/the-fed-is-evaluating-whether-to-launch-a-digital-currency-and-in-what-form-powell-says.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/22/the-fed-is-evaluating-whethe... https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2021/html/ecb.pr210714~d99198ea23.en.html https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/pr/date/2021/html/ecb.pr2107... https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/12/30/mexicos-central-bank-to-launch-digital-currency-by-2024 https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/economy/2021/12/30/mexicos-cen... https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/china-moves-closer-to-launch-of-worlds-first-sovereign-digital-currency/44550 https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/china-moves-closer-... https://www.bobsguide.com/articles/uks-new-settlement-system-to-support-dlt/ https://www.bobsguide.com/articles/uks-new-settlement-system... Companies already implemented and removed it before. Bitpay, circle, coinbase is directly correlated to crypto. The other ones have like a 4 person team on it. It's a neglectible effort for the "what if" case. ( Eg. Stripe had > 4 k. Employees and 4-5 people working on crypto) Here's another one: https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/microsoft-drops-azure-blockchain/ https://www.infoq.com/news/2021/06/microsoft-drops-azure-blo... > Microsoft credited industry changes and declined interest in the product as the main reasons for discontinuing the marketing of Azure Blockchain. Declining interest also with AWS : https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Amazon%20blockchain https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=... It's not even reaching halve it's 2017 peak. But i understand, you don't have any resources to show that anyone actually cares outside of the FOMO. Note: if you consider El Salvador that tweets "bought the dip" every month as a serious comparison to the real world, that's pretty silly. They wanted the first movers advantage, let's see how that plays out in reality.