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> You will know then that Apple Daily and Stand News were pushing "freedom of the press" into territory that no western media dares to push in their own countri

> You will know then that Apple Daily and Stand News were pushing "freedom of the press" into territory that no western media dares to push in their own countries, including actively calling for foreign military intervention in Hong Kong. I recall very recently some US media personalities calling for military invasion of Australia; doesn't seem very different.

dnautics 5y ago
Yes, the united states, where the state funded media arm amplifies a call for the us to be invaded (to be fair, by the us): https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reactions-after-mayhem-us-capitol/6200437.html https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reac... "If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States"
- msla 5y ago
  Very few Americans know about the VoA, especially compared to Britons and the BBC.
  - dnautics 5y ago
    That's besides the point. They are allowed to criticize the hand that feeds them (as is the BBC)
    - pphysch 5y ago
      If only that were true, Julian Assange and many others would be free.
      - dnautics 5y ago
        > if only that were true What is happening to assange is a travesty, but you are literally arguing against something that is demonstrably true. Try again.
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        pphysch 5y ago
        Are you for real? The suffering of Assange, Manning, Peltier, and many others demonstrates that this is not true. Heck, you can even throw right-wing loons associated with Jan 6 in there. Washington simply does not tolerate challenges to its authority. Evidence-free invocation of "demonstrably true" is an oxymoron.
dillondoyle 5y ago
Plus it's not a fair analogy in the first place. It would be more like if Trump or Q crazies took over power on Jan 6, then the NyTimes called for Canada and Britain to come to our rescue and restore Democracy.

dnautics 5y ago

Yes, the united states, where the state funded media arm amplifies a call for the us to be invaded (to be fair, by the us): https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reactions-after-mayhem-us-capitol/6200437.html https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reac... "If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States"

msla 5y ago
Very few Americans know about the VoA, especially compared to Britons and the BBC.
- dnautics 5y ago
  That's besides the point. They are allowed to criticize the hand that feeds them (as is the BBC)
  - pphysch 5y ago
    If only that were true, Julian Assange and many others would be free.
    - dnautics 5y ago
      > if only that were true What is happening to assange is a travesty, but you are literally arguing against something that is demonstrably true. Try again.
      - deleted 5y ago
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      - pphysch 5y ago
        Are you for real? The suffering of Assange, Manning, Peltier, and many others demonstrates that this is not true. Heck, you can even throw right-wing loons associated with Jan 6 in there. Washington simply does not tolerate challenges to its authority. Evidence-free invocation of "demonstrably true" is an oxymoron.

dillondoyle 5y ago

Plus it's not a fair analogy in the first place. It would be more like if Trump or Q crazies took over power on Jan 6, then the NyTimes called for Canada and Britain to come to our rescue and restore Democracy.