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If you a "business owner in Hong Kong" then you should be able to see with your own eyes whether Hong Kong is "just another Chinese city" or not, rather than be

If you a "business owner in Hong Kong" then you should be able to see with your own eyes whether Hong Kong is "just another Chinese city" or not, rather than believing the anti-China propaganda that western media regurgitates repetitively and predictably, paying only the most basic level of lip-service to actual events. You will know then that Apple Daily and Stand News were pushing "freedom of the press" into territory that no western media dares to push in their own countries, including actively calling for foreign military intervention in Hong Kong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfVGludKPWM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfVGludKPWM SCMP - The insufferable hypocrisy of Western governments hell-bent on destroying Julian Assange "the only solution to bad speech is more free speech" "the only solution to a bad market is more free market" "the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun" edit: Hacker News that bastion of "free speech" where all opinions not conforming to the "western liberal" doctrine gets downvote-censored because the readers are too fragile to read different opinions > US media personalities calling for military invasion of Australia (1) That's not the same thing as calling for military invasion of the US. (2) No government cares about random small articles that only random internet commentators know about to make a "irrelevant counterexample fallacy"; what matters is large-scale media exhibiting a long-term pattern of behaviour and trying to organise large numbers of people (which they failed at in HK; most people stopped going to the protests after a small group started extreme violence).

BirdieNZ 5y ago
> You will know then that Apple Daily and Stand News were pushing "freedom of the press" into territory that no western media dares to push in their own countries, including actively calling for foreign military intervention in Hong Kong. I recall very recently some US media personalities calling for military invasion of Australia; doesn't seem very different.
- dnautics 5y ago
  Yes, the united states, where the state funded media arm amplifies a call for the us to be invaded (to be fair, by the us): https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reactions-after-mayhem-us-capitol/6200437.html https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reac... "If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States"
  - msla 5y ago
    Very few Americans know about the VoA, especially compared to Britons and the BBC.
    - dnautics 5y ago
      That's besides the point. They are allowed to criticize the hand that feeds them (as is the BBC)
      - pphysch 5y ago
        If only that were true, Julian Assange and many others would be free.
        dnautics 5y ago
        > if only that were true What is happening to assange is a travesty, but you are literally arguing against something that is demonstrably true. Try again.
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        pphysch 5y ago
        Are you for real? The suffering of Assange, Manning, Peltier, and many others demonstrates that this is not true. Heck, you can even throw right-wing loons associated with Jan 6 in there. Washington simply does not tolerate challenges to its authority. Evidence-free invocation of "demonstrably true" is an oxymoron.
- dillondoyle 5y ago
  Plus it's not a fair analogy in the first place. It would be more like if Trump or Q crazies took over power on Jan 6, then the NyTimes called for Canada and Britain to come to our rescue and restore Democracy.
_dain_ 5y ago

BirdieNZ 5y ago

> You will know then that Apple Daily and Stand News were pushing "freedom of the press" into territory that no western media dares to push in their own countries, including actively calling for foreign military intervention in Hong Kong. I recall very recently some US media personalities calling for military invasion of Australia; doesn't seem very different.

dnautics 5y ago
Yes, the united states, where the state funded media arm amplifies a call for the us to be invaded (to be fair, by the us): https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reactions-after-mayhem-us-capitol/6200437.html https://www.voanews.com/a/usa_world-leaders-offer-mixed-reac... "If the United States saw what the United States is doing in the United States, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States"
- msla 5y ago
  Very few Americans know about the VoA, especially compared to Britons and the BBC.
  - dnautics 5y ago
    That's besides the point. They are allowed to criticize the hand that feeds them (as is the BBC)
    - pphysch 5y ago
      If only that were true, Julian Assange and many others would be free.
      - dnautics 5y ago
        > if only that were true What is happening to assange is a travesty, but you are literally arguing against something that is demonstrably true. Try again.
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        pphysch 5y ago
        Are you for real? The suffering of Assange, Manning, Peltier, and many others demonstrates that this is not true. Heck, you can even throw right-wing loons associated with Jan 6 in there. Washington simply does not tolerate challenges to its authority. Evidence-free invocation of "demonstrably true" is an oxymoron.
dillondoyle 5y ago
Plus it's not a fair analogy in the first place. It would be more like if Trump or Q crazies took over power on Jan 6, then the NyTimes called for Canada and Britain to come to our rescue and restore Democracy.

_dain_ 5y ago