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Is this the same dish as in the radiation hazard analysis here? https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-LIC-20190211-00151/1616679 https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-LIC-20190211

by petee 5y ago

Is this the same dish as in the radiation hazard analysis here? https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-LIC-20190211-00151/1616679 https://fcc.report/IBFS/SES-LIC-20190211-00151/1616679 It says transmitting at a slant (satellite at horizon) at the antenna surface they measure ~1mW/cm2; the MPE for a person is 1mw/cm2 averaged over 30 minutes. Since a cat is much smaller, how does that effect their absorption? What effects could be expected (if any) if a cat were to sleep all night on the dish?

aronpye 5y ago
It’s non-ionizing radiation so would “only” cause radiation burns worst case. I don’t know what frequency the transmitter uses / how deeply the waves can penetrate, so you could also end up with “internal sun burn” as well external burns depending on the power and penetration.
- aronpye 5y ago
  Also see: Radiation burns from Army radio http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3707424.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3707424.stm And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_burn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_burn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn
ncmncm 5y ago
The only officially recognized effect of microwave exposure is heating. That is written into US (and probably other countries') regulations in black and white. In actual fact, at low radiation levels, modulation is critically important. With judicious modulation, you can easily disrupt critical biological processes involved in growth and healing, at about any wavelength with very low power level. But it is fairly unlikely that on a Starlink plate searching desperately for a satellite you would get modulation of a character to induce such effects. Likewise your typical 5G phone or tower. But nobody knows, because literally nobody has checked. Actually checking would be extremely hazardous for anybody with any sort of stake in 5G or Starlink, opening them to various sorts of liability lawsuit for failing to disclose harm found, or failing to discover whatever harm is later found. Not checking at all, though, is A-OK! So the experiment is being run on the general public, instead. Again. Happened with 4G, 3G, 2G, analog cell, each with its own modulation scheme and mix of wavelengths. Cancer mortality rates go up, down, sideways, and nobody generally knows why.
- bell-cot 5y ago
  > [...] at low radiation levels, modulation is critically important. With judicious modulation, you can easily disrupt critical biological processes involved in growth and healing, at about any wavelength with very low power level. Sources? Citations? Any particular reason why nobody is stopping cancer growth with software defined radios? (Or killing agricultural pests, or controlling malaria, or ...)
  - ncmncm 5y ago
    Veterinarians have a gadget that they use to heal horse bone fractures 2x+ as fast. "The Body Electric" by Robert Becker is a useful primer.

by petee 5y ago

aronpye 5y ago

It’s non-ionizing radiation so would “only” cause radiation burns worst case. I don’t know what frequency the transmitter uses / how deeply the waves can penetrate, so you could also end up with “internal sun burn” as well external burns depending on the power and penetration.

aronpye 5y ago
Also see: Radiation burns from Army radio http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3707424.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3707424.stm And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_burn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_burn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn

ncmncm 5y ago

The only officially recognized effect of microwave exposure is heating. That is written into US (and probably other countries') regulations in black and white. In actual fact, at low radiation levels, modulation is critically important. With judicious modulation, you can easily disrupt critical biological processes involved in growth and healing, at about any wavelength with very low power level. But it is fairly unlikely that on a Starlink plate searching desperately for a satellite you would get modulation of a character to induce such effects. Likewise your typical 5G phone or tower. But nobody knows, because literally nobody has checked. Actually checking would be extremely hazardous for anybody with any sort of stake in 5G or Starlink, opening them to various sorts of liability lawsuit for failing to disclose harm found, or failing to discover whatever harm is later found. Not checking at all, though, is A-OK! So the experiment is being run on the general public, instead. Again. Happened with 4G, 3G, 2G, analog cell, each with its own modulation scheme and mix of wavelengths. Cancer mortality rates go up, down, sideways, and nobody generally knows why.

bell-cot 5y ago
> [...] at low radiation levels, modulation is critically important. With judicious modulation, you can easily disrupt critical biological processes involved in growth and healing, at about any wavelength with very low power level. Sources? Citations? Any particular reason why nobody is stopping cancer growth with software defined radios? (Or killing agricultural pests, or controlling malaria, or ...)
- ncmncm 5y ago
  Veterinarians have a gadget that they use to heal horse bone fractures 2x+ as fast. "The Body Electric" by Robert Becker is a useful primer.