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This is a great idea! Can we do this monthly? I am having conversations with a few people to start Conduit Foundation: require all new construction to be EV re

This is a great idea! Can we do this monthly? I am having conversations with a few people to start Conduit Foundation: require all new construction to be EV ready. Have conduit installed whenever we build new parking. It will make it future proof to pull cable and install chargers later. This is a one time building code change with a continuous yield of new charge points. Hit me up if you have any interest.

atlasunshrugged 5y ago
Second on the monthly idea. Will you be lobbying at the federal level of focused on state/local?
- thelastgallon 5y ago
  Building codes are mostly at city/local level. We have to get this changed for every city. I am hoping once we get a few cities to adopt this, it will be easier to get other cities to adopt. There are no federal/state building codes. There is a central authority (ICC), all cities start with ICC code and make modifications. We can also work with ICC, but the adoption cadence will be slow. ICC updates building codes yearly, but cities do not make yearly changes and every city does this differently. We can with cities directly. Most city govts would be easier to approach and work with (we pay property taxes and live in the area!). We also have to work with ICC, its an international standard, we can think of all countries and not just US.
  - atlasunshrugged 5y ago
    Got it, that's not a space I'm very active in but have you checked trade associations? That may be a way to cut across state/city lines quickly and it would be good to understand their stances because they do hire professional lobbyists at the city/state and I'm pretty sure federal level (met one from a roofing association socially)
    - thelastgallon 5y ago
      Thats a great idea! Trade associations like you suggested as well standards bodies (there is another for electrical/fire - National Electrical Code by NFPA) can help a lot with the grassroots efforts of working with each city. The plan is to pursue all possible paths and get this done as quickly as possible. US has 2 billion parking spots currently [1]. If we are building 1% new every year, in ten years we can have 200 million charging spots. Range anxiety would be put to rest. We have to put in charging first, this accelerates EV adoption. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/why-parking-lots-are-not-full-even-on-black-friday https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/why-parki... wild assumption, not a fact! This doesn't need to be net new on vacant lots, includes rebuilding existing lots. Any development has to adhere to latest city code.
jrmiii 5y ago
I also think monthly, or at the very least quarterly is a good idea. I suspect, the half-life of a post like this that doesn't find you at the right time would make it hard to find collaboration opportunities if on an annual cadence.
exikyut 5y ago
...lobby to have the building code changed. Huh. It's kind of neat to realize you can actually just go and do that. So easy to just write that sort of thing off as interminable because it will be hard. Very cool idea. On a related note, I'm torn about applying the same idea to new residential constructions, and the minimum amount that would be appropriate to require. Such a concept would make for example running fiber straightforward and inexpensive.

atlasunshrugged 5y ago

Second on the monthly idea. Will you be lobbying at the federal level of focused on state/local?

thelastgallon 5y ago
Building codes are mostly at city/local level. We have to get this changed for every city. I am hoping once we get a few cities to adopt this, it will be easier to get other cities to adopt. There are no federal/state building codes. There is a central authority (ICC), all cities start with ICC code and make modifications. We can also work with ICC, but the adoption cadence will be slow. ICC updates building codes yearly, but cities do not make yearly changes and every city does this differently. We can with cities directly. Most city govts would be easier to approach and work with (we pay property taxes and live in the area!). We also have to work with ICC, its an international standard, we can think of all countries and not just US.
- atlasunshrugged 5y ago
  Got it, that's not a space I'm very active in but have you checked trade associations? That may be a way to cut across state/city lines quickly and it would be good to understand their stances because they do hire professional lobbyists at the city/state and I'm pretty sure federal level (met one from a roofing association socially)
  - thelastgallon 5y ago
    Thats a great idea! Trade associations like you suggested as well standards bodies (there is another for electrical/fire - National Electrical Code by NFPA) can help a lot with the grassroots efforts of working with each city. The plan is to pursue all possible paths and get this done as quickly as possible. US has 2 billion parking spots currently [1]. If we are building 1% new every year, in ten years we can have 200 million charging spots. Range anxiety would be put to rest. We have to put in charging first, this accelerates EV adoption. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/why-parking-lots-are-not-full-even-on-black-friday https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-27/why-parki... wild assumption, not a fact! This doesn't need to be net new on vacant lots, includes rebuilding existing lots. Any development has to adhere to latest city code.

jrmiii 5y ago

I also think monthly, or at the very least quarterly is a good idea. I suspect, the half-life of a post like this that doesn't find you at the right time would make it hard to find collaboration opportunities if on an annual cadence.

exikyut 5y ago

...lobby to have the building code changed. Huh. It's kind of neat to realize you can actually just go and do that. So easy to just write that sort of thing off as interminable because it will be hard. Very cool idea. On a related note, I'm torn about applying the same idea to new residential constructions, and the minimum amount that would be appropriate to require. Such a concept would make for example running fiber straightforward and inexpensive.