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Gods... Are people still drunk/high from yesterday? I come from times when there was no css and literally no ads, or at least they were rather exception than ru

• salawat 5y ago
  ...why bother Googling at this point? The well is so poisoned by SEO BS, your typical Boolean searches are getting further and further away from yielding any useful general results. Once people realized PageRank existed, the algorithmic arms race destroyed any semblance of user friendliness remaining on the Web, and severely detracted from actually useful communication of information. We've got a semantic split of the Web, one for for comms, one for mercantilism, one for info prop, content hosting and streaming, the surveillance web.. but each is indexed in the same bloody index. So your Web to learn is obfuscated by the noise of people trying to sell you on one thing or the other, or places with terrible advice that just try to score ad bux off common how-to queries. Try searching for the name of an old niche hand tool on the Net when all you've got is a physical description. Used to be able to do it. In recent years though, I've found success rates have plummeted.
  • max002 5y ago
    Use "search" "term", use negative operators and learn other search operators that works. I don't have any problems finding stuff amd filtering the seo bullshit. Even really old stuff. Or use different search engine. Its not internet's fault that you cannot find something, go and complain to google about their algorithms or even better, go work for them to improve it instead of complaining. Btw. Pagerank doesnt work since ages and positioning in google is waaay harder than it was some time ago (i wont even say some years ago). Here you go, someone just posted it in here: https://github.com/opsdisk/yagooglesearch https://github.com/opsdisk/yagooglesearch Maybe spend some of your free time to contribute to this free project given on free internet.
    • salawat 5y ago
      Yes. I know all of those tricks and use them regularly. I also grew up at a time where observing actual signal and seeing the difference between "the good stuff" and "marketing woo" didn't even require half of it. I also spend a lot of time sweating how to leave behind a learnable system as good as the one I grew up with and getting frustrated because younger people and other adults can't get consistent replicable results because every damn search provider has more "personalization hooks" or agenda driven weight functions to result display that search queries for the neophyte are many times the length of ones not even a decade or so old; with better results getting hidden under the stuff that someone has a fiscal interest in getting SEO'd to the top. The Internet does have a problem if we can't rear Internet savvy youth, which face it, the majority of parents can't because they aren't. And no. The entire practice of SEO basically poisons the well for everyone. Any information under that type of evolutionary pressure is going to become garbage to anyone but someone who is versed in the more arcane aspects of searching, which is not the bloody thing I'm looking to perpetuate, justify or otherwise make more tenable. So you're left with either curation, building your own search index you never share with any significant number of people or you capitulate to the market and the perverse regulations and perception management from <insert government here> that do nothing but perception manage anyone unaware of what is going on. We live in a digital world separated from the actually extant one by multiple layers of entrenched players tweaking levers to determine what we do and don't see. That ain't cool. We can't fix problems no one can see and come to a consensus on.
      • max002 5y ago
        So lets make internet paid, track everyone and control what and who posts on spammy blogs. For sure dictators would like that idea... Ohhh, wait, its already happening! Great China firewall, censorship and new restrictions on using VPN's in Russia. Brilliant idea. Im sure reporters and whistleblowers that do report aggainst oppresive goverments will love it! of course your idea supports so much the freedom and safety of speech. Maybe ask Khashoggi? Ahh, shit his dead. Or maybe Navalny? Damn, he was sentenced for hard labour and prison because he was aggainst dictator and i believe you wont get visitation. Or maybe ask reporters and politicians in Poland (my country)? Public tv is already nationalistic and racist propaganda tube and they used Pegasus on opposition during election. Im sure they will love your idea, everyone who says and write everything on the bill, yuppie! Seo spammers can use vpns so lets block them too, just like in mother Russia! Good old heavy hand rule and censorship! Or tell that to basic human and then especially woman rights defenders in Afghanistan, im sure they will appreciate your idea as well! Lets control everyone because we have problem with seo spam, thats a brilliant solution! And so selfless, ahhhh, I just miss the words to describe and glorify your outstanding attitude towards freedoms and privacy! I mean you rule, you should be the next president of US and make sure that everything everyone does on internet is in neat and of course fast access database! Because we know all people and politicians are good and they wont abuse it! Such a humanism, im full of admiration. But if you make it please let me know. So we can warn people to run and hide before theyre locked away after smearing campagins or simply killed because they speak the truth about dictators! Because you cant find stuff because of seo spam, i mean... Just grow up and stop being egoist thinking just about your own comfort. Youre not alone on this planet and people have bigger issues than not being able to find old app on internet!