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Whats the point of using exchange? Why people can't just use regular mail servers? Whats different?
by hexo 5y ago
Whats the point of using exchange? Why people can't just use regular mail servers? Whats different?
- hahajk 5y agoWhat are other good self-hosted email server options?
- hexo 5y agoI don't know... postfix?
- ananonymoususer 5y agohttps://mailinabox.email/ https://mailinabox.email/
- frays 5y agoI'm more interested in hearing why these Sys Admins haven't switched over to O365 yet?
- analog31 5y agoAre they actually different, as in the nuts and bolts, or just different shells on top of the same infrastructure?
- lillecarl 5y agoYou pay very little for these things to be someone else's problem.
- bluedino 5y agoCost. Especially if you have a large amount of users, and you already have the IT staff and servers to run it on (you can try to justify it with less admin costs and less server costs but the numbers don't add up for some orgs) As an example, I worked at a healthcare org and it would have been $70,000 a year for hosted Outlook, but only $110,000 to buy the software outright and run it for ten years (700,000 - 110,000 is a big savings)
- robjan 5y agoYou also have to run a datacentre or server room with the on-prem version
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- isbvhodnvemrwvn 5y agoAnd meat terraform/ansible to run those.
- gruez 5y ago>and you already have the IT staff and servers to run it on (you can try to justify it with less admin costs and less server costs but the numbers don't add up for some orgs)
- bluedino 5y agoIf you limit mailbox sizes you can run 500 users on a pretty modest VM
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- iso1210 5y agoHN wisdom is that it's impossible to run a single raspberry pi with less than $2m/year spend on IT staff alone
- ocdtrekkie 5y agoA local Exchange server has vastly better uptime than Office 365, works when cloud services and the ISP is down, and costs drastically less. Hilariously, the standing advice has usually been for Exchange Online customers to still install and operate a local Exchange server too, which means switching to the cloud didn't even reduce your management or hosting burden at all. Sure, you get the occasional bug like this, but it's less often than Microsoft screwing up the entire cloud.
- easton 5y ago> Hilariously, the standing advice has usually been for Exchange Online customers to still install and operate a local Exchange server too Only if you have a large tenant (> 2000 mailboxes) at the time of transition, and even then there’s ways around it. I think if you were getting advice today, it would be to avoid hybrid as much as possible and find any other way to move over because of this stupid requirement.
- EvanAnderson 5y agoAs of the last time I checked (6 mos. ago) there is still no supported managemenrt solution for Exchange Online without local Exchange if you migrated to Exchange Online via a hybrid migration. Some people just modify AD attributes directly to get around having an on-prem Exchange install but that's not officially supported.
- technion 5y agoYou could have 15 people in an org and it's entirely unsupported to drop the Exchange server if you wish to have AD synced users regrettably. MS are very clear that "ways around it" go against their recommendations, even if I don't like it myself.
- bluedino 5y agoCalendars, push, a bunch of other stuff that's useful It's not perfect but it's by far the best mail server for internal Email.
- awill 5y agoEvery company I've worked at who uses self-hosted exchange uses it because that's what they used 20 years ago. I don't know companies deliberately using it. I suppose office 365 is different. Smaller companies get a good bundle with Teams, Office, mail etc..
- bogantech 5y agoIt ties in easily with AD, does shared mailboxes, calendars, contact lists, meetings, automatic out of office, sorting, legal hold, archiving, backup etc relatively easily without having to glue together a hundred different things. MS will support it & offers training. It can be managed easily by the same windows admins they have managing their AD infrastructure and desktop support.