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There is very little overlap between people who care about Mensa/IQ tests and intelligent people.

Jensson 5y ago
People don't have to care about IQ tests to know that they got a good score on one and therefore consider themselves smart. You can see them in almost every thread about IQ tests "I got IQ score 1X0 and I think that IQ is stupid and doesn't matter!". Anyway, being smart without an education is pretty worthless as you say, but there is a lot of such people out there. Being uneducated doesn't mean they aren't intelligent, it just means that they didn't utilize their intelligence in life. I'm not sure why you would try to say that they aren't intelligent just because they lack education. If a study found that intelligent people face more boredom or whatever, then it is almost surely that the study was a correlation between IQ and some questionnaire result, so whatever score someone got on an IQ test is very relevant for the topic.
- Foobar8568 5y ago
  And if you are educated, you have an even wider gap with your average person. Education starts with school and parenting, when school is averaging to the lowest students and parents are busy with their own work, what is left to your "high IQ kid"? School would just provide a less-than-average knowledge, parents won't guide, and you get an uneducated kid surrounded by "idiots". As a parent, you provide guidance to your kids, high IQ or not, you still get a large gap with their peers. Yesterday, we were drugging kids with TV, today, with tiktok and the likes.
- rambambram 5y ago
  > Being uneducated doesn't mean they aren't intelligent, it just means that they didn't utilize their intelligence in life. Wow...
- kortilla 5y ago
  > then it is almost surely that the study was a correlation between IQ and some questionnaire result No, because that once again assumes IQ tests are a relevant way to measure intelligence.

People don't have to care about IQ tests to know that they got a good score on one and therefore consider themselves smart. You can see them in almost every thread about IQ tests "I got IQ score 1X0 and I think that IQ is stupid and doesn't matter!". Anyway, being smart without an education is pretty worthless as you say, but there is a lot of such people out there. Being uneducated doesn't mean they aren't intelligent, it just means that they didn't utilize their intelligence in life. I'm not sure why you would try to say that they aren't intelligent just because they lack education. If a study found that intelligent people face more boredom or whatever, then it is almost surely that the study was a correlation between IQ and some questionnaire result, so whatever score someone got on an IQ test is very relevant for the topic.

Foobar8568 5y ago
And if you are educated, you have an even wider gap with your average person. Education starts with school and parenting, when school is averaging to the lowest students and parents are busy with their own work, what is left to your "high IQ kid"? School would just provide a less-than-average knowledge, parents won't guide, and you get an uneducated kid surrounded by "idiots". As a parent, you provide guidance to your kids, high IQ or not, you still get a large gap with their peers. Yesterday, we were drugging kids with TV, today, with tiktok and the likes.
rambambram 5y ago
> Being uneducated doesn't mean they aren't intelligent, it just means that they didn't utilize their intelligence in life. Wow...
kortilla 5y ago
> then it is almost surely that the study was a correlation between IQ and some questionnaire result No, because that once again assumes IQ tests are a relevant way to measure intelligence.