I basically agree with this, but honestly there’s actually a big snob factor as well. Some of the best post-age-forty conversations I’ve had came out of me ask

I basically agree with this, but honestly there’s actually a big snob factor as well. Some of the best post-age-forty conversations I’ve had came out of me asking someone, “what do you find hard in that job?” The more hands on the better. And these things - these kinds of discussions - aren’t generally available on YouTube lectures or whatever. In person you can get people to drop the facade or the spin and just talk.