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I'm a few years out of grad school, working at a tech company, and single. I came from an academic background where talking about interesting ideas and concept
by supernova87a 5y ago
I'm a few years out of grad school, working at a tech company, and single. I came from an academic background where talking about interesting ideas and concepts was the norm. I had a pretty uncommon career path into tech and I'm not some coder.
My experience is that when you're in my position, it's getting harder and harder (with age) to find people who are interested in talking about ideas, entertaining the curiosities in life without some agenda/getting offended by the controversial ones, talking about possibilities and concepts (rather than objects). Like having conversations on advanced mode with people who are similar.
Often times at parties, when I get bored, I think of a quote, "Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events/things. Small minds discuss wine."
It's getting more and more common that I find people just wanting to talk about wine. Or the equivalent. Stuff that's completely forgettable after you leave the party. I mean that stuff is fine, and there's nothing wrong with talking about good food you've had, some articles you've read, movies seen, etc. too. And to be funny and engaging while talking about it. It just feels like... after you're done talking about that, what then?
Or if I do meet people who are intellectually interesting, how to get more connected or where to take it after a chance meeting and pleasant chat?
That said, what do I have to offer at this stage of my life either, to a stranger? I'm unmarried, so I don't have kids or the mortgage to talk about. I'm not a CEO or someone powerful. Also I'm single -- what are people supposed do with that? Don't have a lot of great reasons for anyone to want to go out of their way to spend more time with me after even an interesting 30 min conversation, without some other excuse.
We're not all living close together in shared housing to make intellectually stimulating conversations natural and prolonged. People have their lives to lead, not sit around talking about theoretical ideas. To contact the few people I've found who are interesting would be... how? "Would you like to schedule a get-together again for a conversation date?"
It's not going to get easier either. Probably in a few years I'll be the really odd guy. Eh, it's a life choice I've made, I realize that too -- to be more interested in ideas and experiences than say... people.
I figure I'd better find some interesting hobbies to make up for the lack of intellectual stimulation. But deeper, what am I working towards? For whom? So, sometimes I think of changing jobs just to see more of the world and gather experiences to be able to have more intellectually stimulating conversations. Learn about VC? Hear about more companies? Where/how?
Yeah, it's a bit of a problem sometimes to ponder.
- WalterBright 5y agoThat's what I miss about college. A friend of mine at Caltech would regularly have chicken wing night at his apartment a few steps from campus. All were invited, and as his chicken wings were to die for, it would be well attended. The owner of the apartment building, an older fellow, would also come by. He'd just sit quietly in a corner, munching on chicken wings. After a few times of this, I asked him, why are you coming here hanging out with people 30 years younger? Don't you find us boring? He said no, no. This is fascinating! Nowhere else have I encountered people who talk about the things you guys do. I just marvel at it!
- mch82 5y agoOne way to increase the number of conversations like this is to say yes to other people’s line of thought. I learned about “yes, and” in an improv class. Have fun with the idea, build it, explore it… try not to shoot it down or debate it. It’s fun to hang out with people who riff on an idea.
- prirun 5y ago> "Would you like to schedule a get-together again for a conversation date?" Sounds pretty good - try it! The person you were talking to may feel exactly the same way. And interesting hobbies? Definitely yes. Try getting into playing an instrument for example. If you like it, it will keep you busy the rest of your life if you want. > But deeper, what am I working towards? For whom? If I get to feeling like this, I like to think about my 2 cats. I love having them, they obviously love being around me, because they are within sight most of the time. But what is their purpose for existence? Do we all need a purpose for existence, or is the fact that we do exist good enough? Speaking of pets, that's another great thing to try out. Having something else living with you takes you out of your head. We are human beings, not human doings. If you feel like doing something, great. If not, just ... be.
- erwincoumans 5y agoAt least you have some conversations on HN with others. Let's hope the replies are not just created by AI :) Conferences are nice times to meet and discuss with like-minded, pity Covid took that away (virtual doesn't work as well)
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