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>> 2. As problems become international, supra-national organizations grow to solve them: from the UN or the EU after WWII, to the WHO, WTO, IMF, WB, and all the
by thesuperbigfrog 5y ago
>> 2. As problems become international, supra-national organizations grow to solve them: from the UN or the EU after WWII, to the WHO, WTO, IMF, WB, and all the other global coordination bodies absorbing national sovereignty.
Many nations (e.g. UK, US, China, Russia, etc.) would not accept the UN or EU as a sovereign body that would supercede national sovereignty.
The governments of such nations would have to fail before the UN or EU could establish a government described here.
In fact, the Catholic church (as described earlier in the argument) came into power because the Roman empire (or at least some parts of it) failed.
- raverbashing 5y agoYou can be "as sovereign" as you want and other countries are free to keep you insulated as much as they want. There is no fundamental sovereignty once you have to trade with anyone. Just ask any country that sells to the US for example. Or Iran. Not surprising the average person is completely ignorant of how much of what even they eat is imported or relies on imports.
- ClumsyPilot 5y agoYou can bully smaller countries through trade, but when US, Russia and China violate international law, they escape scott free.
- Zigurd 5y agoRussia has a smaller GDP than Japan or Germany, and a 1/10th of that of the EU. If Russia further invades Ukraine, there will be a return to containment, and not much that Russia can do about it. China is in a whole other category.
- blibble 5y agodue to years of poor decisions (and corrupt politicians [1]): the EU is now completely reliant on Russian gas it will be able to do absolutely nothing of consequence when Russia further invades Ukraine [1]: Gerhard Schröder (former German chancellor) ended up employed by the Russian pipeline company Nord Stream's board immediately after leaving office (when in office he approved it), and this week it was reported former French Prime Minister Fillion is now employed by two Russian gas firms I suspect Merkel will end up in a similar position after pushing though Russian gas pipeline #2 (NS2)
- foobiekr 5y agoRussia has completely neutralitzed the EU through energy dependence. They have more power over the EU in that sense than OPEC ever had over the US and we were completely cowed in that era.