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Do you have any data to substantiate your claims. Your statement is just plain bigotry and unsubstantiated accusation.

by gautamdivgi 5y ago

lmz 5y ago
Last sentence of the article mentions a caste discrimination lawsuit.
- gautamdivgi 5y ago
  So basically less than 5 Indians in a lawsuit is a representative sample of the more than 4 million in the US. That's basically the reason I called out the bigotry.
SturgeonsLaw 5y ago
The article presents some numbers stating that the upper castes are overrepresented in the highest echelons of the business world, there must be some mechanism in place that causes this. At some stage, filtering is happening.
- rajup 5y ago
  You are just assuming some kind of malicious filtering happening purportedly in interviews and the like. A perfectly plausible and likely the only explanation is that historically, yes the caste system led to the lower castes being denied economic opportunities that translates to them being less likely to have the resources to attain higher education abroad. The above explanation does not require the mental gymnastics of some sort of coordinated effort by upper caste interviewers to filter out lower caste people.
Ostrogodsky 5y ago
- gautamdivgi 5y ago
  >>>> in the people having opportunity to study and work abroad No one asks for caste on a US Visa application or a US college application and neither does the US state department grant the visa based on caste. In fact about 50% of college/university seats are reserved for lower castes (affirmative action). >>>> In some sense is like Jewish-Americans supporting diversity efforts and fighting against "white supremacy" but totally minimizing or ignoring the huge Jewish over-representation in all the important spots in society, from CEOs of big companies to SCOTUS and everything in between. There seems to be a misconception and a very narrow view. Yes, some very visible companies have Indian CEO's. NVIDIA has a CEO of Taiwanese descent and the same is true obviously for TSMC. I think if you did a poll across most mid to large companies you will find that this assertion is incorrect. A very small percentage of the total CEO population is Asian or Indian. So, while the Economist likes to bring caste into the picture it's actually a non-issue for being a CEO.
  - throwaway2037 5y ago
    For almost all of its history, the CEO of TSMC was Morris Chang (張忠謀). He was born in Ningbo, Zhejiang province, China. This was before the civil war and the separation of Taiwan. He lived and worked in the United States for many years, then was invited by the Taiwanese gov't to start/run TSMC. I have no idea what his passport situation was like, as his family reportedly escaped to Hongkong just before the founding of PRC. Like Nvidia, the CEO of AMD, Lisa Su, is also a Taiwanese immigrant.
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Do you have any data to substantiate your claims. Your statement is just plain bigotry and unsubstantiated accusation.

lmz 5y ago

Last sentence of the article mentions a caste discrimination lawsuit.

gautamdivgi 5y ago
So basically less than 5 Indians in a lawsuit is a representative sample of the more than 4 million in the US. That's basically the reason I called out the bigotry.

SturgeonsLaw 5y ago

The article presents some numbers stating that the upper castes are overrepresented in the highest echelons of the business world, there must be some mechanism in place that causes this. At some stage, filtering is happening.

rajup 5y ago
You are just assuming some kind of malicious filtering happening purportedly in interviews and the like. A perfectly plausible and likely the only explanation is that historically, yes the caste system led to the lower castes being denied economic opportunities that translates to them being less likely to have the resources to attain higher education abroad. The above explanation does not require the mental gymnastics of some sort of coordinated effort by upper caste interviewers to filter out lower caste people.

Ostrogodsky 5y ago

gautamdivgi 5y ago
>>>> in the people having opportunity to study and work abroad No one asks for caste on a US Visa application or a US college application and neither does the US state department grant the visa based on caste. In fact about 50% of college/university seats are reserved for lower castes (affirmative action). >>>> In some sense is like Jewish-Americans supporting diversity efforts and fighting against "white supremacy" but totally minimizing or ignoring the huge Jewish over-representation in all the important spots in society, from CEOs of big companies to SCOTUS and everything in between. There seems to be a misconception and a very narrow view. Yes, some very visible companies have Indian CEO's. NVIDIA has a CEO of Taiwanese descent and the same is true obviously for TSMC. I think if you did a poll across most mid to large companies you will find that this assertion is incorrect. A very small percentage of the total CEO population is Asian or Indian. So, while the Economist likes to bring caste into the picture it's actually a non-issue for being a CEO.
- throwaway2037 5y ago
  For almost all of its history, the CEO of TSMC was Morris Chang (張忠謀). He was born in Ningbo, Zhejiang province, China. This was before the civil war and the separation of Taiwan. He lived and worked in the United States for many years, then was invited by the Taiwanese gov't to start/run TSMC. I have no idea what his passport situation was like, as his family reportedly escaped to Hongkong just before the founding of PRC. Like Nvidia, the CEO of AMD, Lisa Su, is also a Taiwanese immigrant.
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