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Nice. Still early days but if they can get it all up to where it is on Linux and also get graphical acceleration on at least one decently good card I might be a

Nice. Still early days but if they can get it all up to where it is on Linux and also get graphical acceleration on at least one decently good card I might be able to avoid my apparently inevitable[0] transition to Linux Desktop entirely and go straight to Haiku instead. [0] Because Microsoft continues to make Windows more and more garbage every day.

kaladin-jasnah 5y ago
What about the *BSDs? Although I will say this one thing—the partial title bar on Haiku/BeOS looks amazing. Wish I could have that on Linux (have not been able to figure out how to date), even though it serves no functional purpose to me other than "looking awesome."
- scoopertrooper 5y ago
  Like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/90gx5u/xfce4_beosr5xfce/ https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/90gx5u/xfce4_beos...
  - kaladin-jasnah 5y ago
    Yes. Maybe I'll try this on my laptop (:
- kitsunesoba 5y ago
  I believe that BeOS and Haiku allow you to snap windows together into tab groups, even when the windows are from different programs, which seems pretty practical.
  - tadfisher 5y ago
    I used an X11 window manager in the early 2000s that had dockable tabs like that. Pekwm I think? I always thought tabs were something that should be left to the WM, for the same reason nested windows are terrible.
    - richardfey 5y ago
      https://www.pekwm.org/ https://www.pekwm.org/ VPS support? Website integrations?! It must be some sort of tongue-in-cheek joke
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  BSD suffers from a lot of the same not-designed-to-be-a-desktop that Linux does. In fact, even more of it.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    It's non-uniform, IMO; OpenBSD is good at being a desktop, since it's developed largely by people who use it as a desktop, while the others work but aren't as polished, no.
  - laumars 5y ago
    Have you tried DragonflyBSD? It’s built by an ex-AmigaOS developer and has some pretty innovative ideas.
    - eitland 5y ago
      Back when I used to read Distrowatch I often read about DragonflyBSD and its innovation (HammerFS I and II in particular if memory serves me right), but my understanding was always that it was a server OS?
      - laumars 5y ago
        They definitely have desktop usage in mind. They have desktop screenshots on their site, include desktop wallpapers and even have a section describing laptop comparability https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/user/DragonFlyOnLaptops/ https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/user/DragonFlyOnLaptops/
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
      As far as I'm aware they have not solved or attempted to solve any of the things that make BSD and Linux such terrible[0] personal computing desktop OSs. They seem primarily to be UNIX workstations meant for UNIX developers to do a little web browsing on the side and not much more. [0] This is a subjective opinion, obviously. I hate that I have to state that outright but if I don't the very next comment will be someone asserting it works great for them. It's great if it works great for you, but I'm not you; I only care if it works great for me and I assure you it doesn't.

kaladin-jasnah 5y ago

What about the *BSDs? Although I will say this one thing—the partial title bar on Haiku/BeOS looks amazing. Wish I could have that on Linux (have not been able to figure out how to date), even though it serves no functional purpose to me other than "looking awesome."

scoopertrooper 5y ago
Like this? https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/90gx5u/xfce4_beosr5xfce/ https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/90gx5u/xfce4_beos...
- kaladin-jasnah 5y ago
  Yes. Maybe I'll try this on my laptop (:
kitsunesoba 5y ago
I believe that BeOS and Haiku allow you to snap windows together into tab groups, even when the windows are from different programs, which seems pretty practical.
- tadfisher 5y ago
  I used an X11 window manager in the early 2000s that had dockable tabs like that. Pekwm I think? I always thought tabs were something that should be left to the WM, for the same reason nested windows are terrible.
  - richardfey 5y ago
    https://www.pekwm.org/ https://www.pekwm.org/ VPS support? Website integrations?! It must be some sort of tongue-in-cheek joke
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
BSD suffers from a lot of the same not-designed-to-be-a-desktop that Linux does. In fact, even more of it.
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  It's non-uniform, IMO; OpenBSD is good at being a desktop, since it's developed largely by people who use it as a desktop, while the others work but aren't as polished, no.
- laumars 5y ago
  Have you tried DragonflyBSD? It’s built by an ex-AmigaOS developer and has some pretty innovative ideas.
  - eitland 5y ago
    Back when I used to read Distrowatch I often read about DragonflyBSD and its innovation (HammerFS I and II in particular if memory serves me right), but my understanding was always that it was a server OS?
    - laumars 5y ago
      They definitely have desktop usage in mind. They have desktop screenshots on their site, include desktop wallpapers and even have a section describing laptop comparability https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/user/DragonFlyOnLaptops/ https://www.dragonflybsd.org/docs/user/DragonFlyOnLaptops/
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    As far as I'm aware they have not solved or attempted to solve any of the things that make BSD and Linux such terrible[0] personal computing desktop OSs. They seem primarily to be UNIX workstations meant for UNIX developers to do a little web browsing on the side and not much more. [0] This is a subjective opinion, obviously. I hate that I have to state that outright but if I don't the very next comment will be someone asserting it works great for them. It's great if it works great for you, but I'm not you; I only care if it works great for me and I assure you it doesn't.