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So you’re fine with ~/Downloads and ~/downloads coexisting as entirely separate directories? And John.McCauley@yahoo.fr and john.mccauley@yahoo.fr being attribu

So you’re fine with ~/Downloads and ~/downloads coexisting as entirely separate directories? And John.McCauley@yahoo.fr and john.mccauley@yahoo.fr being attributed to two different people ;)

justaguy37 5y ago
can we just say no to capital letters? (or lowercase?) do capital letters have a good enough usage case to justify their continued existence?
- colejohnson66 5y ago
  You are free to stop using capital letters, but good luck getting everyone to go along. Capitals have been around for centuries (they’re older than the printing press) and aren’t going anywhere.
  - bmn__ 5y ago
    The lower-case letters in Greek/Latin/Cyrillic are the new additions, initially we only had what is now called upper-case.
- Lammy 5y ago
  Fun fact: The Apple Ⅱ and Ⅱ+ originally only did upper-case, and it was very popular to add a Shift Key / lower-case mod via one of the gamepad buttons: https://web.archive.org/web/20010212094858/http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2KBPADJS.html#001 https://web.archive.org/web/20010212094858/http://home.swbel...
vgel 5y ago
First one: yes, though good UI should prevent it from happening unless the user really intended it (for example I have ~/Documents symlinked into Dropbox, so ~/documents could be local-only documents) Second one: no, emails are not filenames, and more generally distinguishability is more important for identifiers. In cases where identifiers like emails need to be mapped to filenames, like caches, they should be normalized.
im3w1l 5y ago
> So you’re fine with ~/Downloads and ~/downloads coexisting as entirely separate directories? Case (in)sensitivity for filenames is a non-issue in my experience. Never had problems with either convention. As for emails, I do think insensitivity was the right choice.
- tim-- 5y ago
  The RFC states that email addresses are case sensitive. The local-part of a mailbox MUST BE treated as case sensitive. Section 2.4 RFC 2821, https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt
  - deadbunny 5y ago
    My guess would be that the local part of an email address would usually map to a directory on case sensitive filesystems...
  - im3w1l 5y ago
    Ah interesting. I guess the case insensitivity (for incoming email) is a decision of the popular services then, like gmails decision to consider johndoe equivalent to john.doe.

So you’re fine with ~/Downloads and ~/downloads coexisting as entirely separate directories? And John.McCauley@yahoo.fr and john.mccauley@yahoo.fr being attributed to two different people ;)

justaguy37 5y ago

can we just say no to capital letters? (or lowercase?) do capital letters have a good enough usage case to justify their continued existence?

colejohnson66 5y ago
You are free to stop using capital letters, but good luck getting everyone to go along. Capitals have been around for centuries (they’re older than the printing press) and aren’t going anywhere.
- bmn__ 5y ago
  The lower-case letters in Greek/Latin/Cyrillic are the new additions, initially we only had what is now called upper-case.
Lammy 5y ago
Fun fact: The Apple Ⅱ and Ⅱ+ originally only did upper-case, and it was very popular to add a Shift Key / lower-case mod via one of the gamepad buttons: https://web.archive.org/web/20010212094858/http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2KBPADJS.html#001 https://web.archive.org/web/20010212094858/http://home.swbel...

vgel 5y ago

First one: yes, though good UI should prevent it from happening unless the user really intended it (for example I have ~/Documents symlinked into Dropbox, so ~/documents could be local-only documents) Second one: no, emails are not filenames, and more generally distinguishability is more important for identifiers. In cases where identifiers like emails need to be mapped to filenames, like caches, they should be normalized.

im3w1l 5y ago

> So you’re fine with ~/Downloads and ~/downloads coexisting as entirely separate directories? Case (in)sensitivity for filenames is a non-issue in my experience. Never had problems with either convention. As for emails, I do think insensitivity was the right choice.

tim-- 5y ago
The RFC states that email addresses are case sensitive. The local-part of a mailbox MUST BE treated as case sensitive. Section 2.4 RFC 2821, https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2821.txt
- deadbunny 5y ago
  My guess would be that the local part of an email address would usually map to a directory on case sensitive filesystems...
- im3w1l 5y ago
  Ah interesting. I guess the case insensitivity (for incoming email) is a decision of the popular services then, like gmails decision to consider johndoe equivalent to john.doe.