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So there's no like/dislike? No retweet? And posts are simply chronological? Is there still a text length limit? How does it handle a relay tempering with the c

So there's no like/dislike? No retweet? And posts are simply chronological? Is there still a text length limit? How does it handle a relay tempering with the content of posts or altering the meta-data? Or a relay who'd be sending out fake posts?

cuu508 5y ago
> How does it handle a relay tempering with the content of posts or altering the meta-data? Or a relay who'd be sending out fake posts? Author signs every post with their key.
- didibus 5y ago
  > Author signs every post with their key So the client does the verification? Or is it the relay? Also, I didn't mean impersonating a specific author, I meant generating posts that no one truly posted to it. So when your client lists the chronological most recent posts you get a bunch of fake manipulated content that was mass generated by the relay itself for example.
  - cuu508 5y ago
    >So the client does the verification? Or is it the relay? From the README: > A relay is very simple and dumb. It does nothing besides accepting posts from some people and forwarding to others. Relays don't have to be trusted. Signatures are verified on the client side --- > So when your client lists the chronological most recent posts you get a bunch of fake manipulated content that was mass generated by the relay itself for example. From the README: > Each client can decide how to best show posts to users, so there is always the option of just consuming what you want in the manner you want — from using an AI to decide the order of the updates you'll see to just reading them in chronological order.
  - Ambolia 5y ago
    As far as I can see you subscribe to specific authors, not to a global feed on the relay, an the author is identified by their cryptographic key. Not sure how it allows you to find new people or responses to comments. Seems like it should be a key part.
    - supertestnet 5y ago
      Peer discovery and peer suggestions are not implemented yet. People have been posting their public keys on twitter etc. There is a proposal for encoding a set of followers/followed in a message which your followers' clients can then use to display info about that on your profile. That should help with peer discovery once someone codes it up. You can also find threads that people are widely commenting on (e.g. someone might post a nostr thread on twitter) and follow people who post in those threads.
      - Ambolia 5y ago
        It's not so much peer discovery, rather the nice thing about Twitter compared with a newsletter or a blog is that you get a post and different people responding and interacting with it. I guess some level of interaction will be needed to replicate the things people look for in Twitter. I guess a very basic functionality that that would cover this would be posting in your timeline "responses" to other posts by including the key of the other author and the cryptographic signature of the post. From that a client would be able to obtain the "parent" post and build a thread.
Ambolia 5y ago
>So there's no like/dislike? No retweet? Yes, that's interesting. You don't want to replicate the addictive part of Twitter but you need at least to replicate some of the network effects. There should be at least the possibility to reply to posts, so if you follow a guy regarding a topic you can find what other people interested in that topic think somehow.
- supertestnet 5y ago
  You can reply to posts. Retweets and likes are not yet supported but they should be easy -- likes can be a reply with just a heart emoji and clients then display those via a counter. Retweets will probably be a new message that contains a link to a prior message and clients will then display it in a twitter-esque manner.

cuu508 5y ago

> How does it handle a relay tempering with the content of posts or altering the meta-data? Or a relay who'd be sending out fake posts? Author signs every post with their key.

didibus 5y ago
> Author signs every post with their key So the client does the verification? Or is it the relay? Also, I didn't mean impersonating a specific author, I meant generating posts that no one truly posted to it. So when your client lists the chronological most recent posts you get a bunch of fake manipulated content that was mass generated by the relay itself for example.
- cuu508 5y ago
  >So the client does the verification? Or is it the relay? From the README: > A relay is very simple and dumb. It does nothing besides accepting posts from some people and forwarding to others. Relays don't have to be trusted. Signatures are verified on the client side --- > So when your client lists the chronological most recent posts you get a bunch of fake manipulated content that was mass generated by the relay itself for example. From the README: > Each client can decide how to best show posts to users, so there is always the option of just consuming what you want in the manner you want — from using an AI to decide the order of the updates you'll see to just reading them in chronological order.
- Ambolia 5y ago
  As far as I can see you subscribe to specific authors, not to a global feed on the relay, an the author is identified by their cryptographic key. Not sure how it allows you to find new people or responses to comments. Seems like it should be a key part.
  - supertestnet 5y ago
    Peer discovery and peer suggestions are not implemented yet. People have been posting their public keys on twitter etc. There is a proposal for encoding a set of followers/followed in a message which your followers' clients can then use to display info about that on your profile. That should help with peer discovery once someone codes it up. You can also find threads that people are widely commenting on (e.g. someone might post a nostr thread on twitter) and follow people who post in those threads.
    - Ambolia 5y ago
      It's not so much peer discovery, rather the nice thing about Twitter compared with a newsletter or a blog is that you get a post and different people responding and interacting with it. I guess some level of interaction will be needed to replicate the things people look for in Twitter. I guess a very basic functionality that that would cover this would be posting in your timeline "responses" to other posts by including the key of the other author and the cryptographic signature of the post. From that a client would be able to obtain the "parent" post and build a thread.

Ambolia 5y ago

>So there's no like/dislike? No retweet? Yes, that's interesting. You don't want to replicate the addictive part of Twitter but you need at least to replicate some of the network effects. There should be at least the possibility to reply to posts, so if you follow a guy regarding a topic you can find what other people interested in that topic think somehow.

supertestnet 5y ago
You can reply to posts. Retweets and likes are not yet supported but they should be easy -- likes can be a reply with just a heart emoji and clients then display those via a counter. Retweets will probably be a new message that contains a link to a prior message and clients will then display it in a twitter-esque manner.