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Do you also only eat free samples from the grocery store?

by IX-103 5y ago

jokethrowaway 5y ago
Those are usually rate limited. I'd recommend pizza and beer at tech events instead (albeit the nutritional content of your diet could be more important than free food).
Const-me 5y ago
Which part of https://translate.google.com/ https://translate.google.com/ web page says the service provided by the page is a free sample of commercially available API?
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  The ToS, I expect
  - Const-me 5y ago
    I’ve looked for 5 minutes there, and found nothing relevant. They don’t even have additional specific TOS for their translate service, the only link from https://policies.google.com/terms/service-specific?hl=en-US https://policies.google.com/terms/service-specific?hl=en-US under “Translate” section points back to their common TOS at https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US Even if they would have TOS for translate, pretty sure that’s unenforceable. Not unless hiding that page behind a paywall, or requiring a google account. Merely visiting a publicly available web page doesn’t create contractual relationship between end user and web server owner.
    - dandiep 5y ago
      I've spent some time looking into this and found very little. The closest I could get is that if you are a Google Cloud customer, it forbids you from reverse engineering other Google APIs that are not documented as supported, which would probably include this use case. No idea if they're a Google Cloud customer though.
      - Const-me 5y ago
        > No idea if they're a Google Cloud customer though. Even if they are, I have doubts that’s enforceable either. One doesn’t need to reverse engineer an API to consume that API, and it’s hard to find out who did the reverse engineering. The reverse engineering might be accomplished by someone else who’s not a Google’s Cloud customer, like an unrelated person answering a question on stackoverflow.com.

Do you also only eat free samples from the grocery store?

by IX-103 5y ago

Do you also only eat free samples from the grocery store?

Those are usually rate limited. I'd recommend pizza and beer at tech events instead (albeit the nutritional content of your diet could be more important than free food).

Const-me 5y ago

Which part of https://translate.google.com/ https://translate.google.com/ web page says the service provided by the page is a free sample of commercially available API?

yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
The ToS, I expect
- Const-me 5y ago
  I’ve looked for 5 minutes there, and found nothing relevant. They don’t even have additional specific TOS for their translate service, the only link from https://policies.google.com/terms/service-specific?hl=en-US https://policies.google.com/terms/service-specific?hl=en-US under “Translate” section points back to their common TOS at https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US Even if they would have TOS for translate, pretty sure that’s unenforceable. Not unless hiding that page behind a paywall, or requiring a google account. Merely visiting a publicly available web page doesn’t create contractual relationship between end user and web server owner.
  - dandiep 5y ago
    I've spent some time looking into this and found very little. The closest I could get is that if you are a Google Cloud customer, it forbids you from reverse engineering other Google APIs that are not documented as supported, which would probably include this use case. No idea if they're a Google Cloud customer though.
    - Const-me 5y ago
      > No idea if they're a Google Cloud customer though. Even if they are, I have doubts that’s enforceable either. One doesn’t need to reverse engineer an API to consume that API, and it’s hard to find out who did the reverse engineering. The reverse engineering might be accomplished by someone else who’s not a Google’s Cloud customer, like an unrelated person answering a question on stackoverflow.com.