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The Chinese medicine hippies are into is pretty much only the herbalist aspect of it, along with acupuncture. I know a lot of people involved in this and exactl

The Chinese medicine hippies are into is pretty much only the herbalist aspect of it, along with acupuncture. I know a lot of people involved in this and exactly zero of them agree with or do anything with animal products, especially anything rare or endangered. Additionally, many of them embrace scientific knowledge and are very interested in why, and if, remedies work rather than treating them as magic and de facto superstitious rules.

yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
Well, that's comforting to some degree. Of course, your recount is as anecdotal as mine, and unfortunately my experience (or at least, the parts of it that confirmation bias pushes into the forefront of my recollection) has been that of more enthusiasm for crystals, homeopathy, chakras, auras, tarot cards, and other mystical bullshit. The people I'm thinking of like to believe they are against the use of animal products, while at the same time using animal products through selective oblivion. It's a bit like former PETA VP Mary Beth Sweetland not considering herself a hypocrite for condemning the use of animal products in medicine despite using animal products to treat her diabetes.
- LightG 5y ago
  Do you think that's the majority of any significant group out there? Get f@cking real.
  - yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
    Please contribute with something more substantive, and avoid shallow dismissals. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- SyzygistSix 5y ago
  I realize the label "Libertarian" is used by a lot of people to make themselves look more virtuous by signaling that they value liberty but it is a stretch in my eyes to equate authoritarian-minded people who merely desire the state to not interfere while they gain massive wealth and power, often over other people, and genuinely anti-authoritarian people (however delusional or misguided) who would just like the state and other authoritarians to not bother them or others. I'm not a libertarian but have known plenty. None were very wealthy, nor did they want much other than a bit of land, and a small business.
  - yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
    I'm not sure how that's a response to my comment — it seems unrelated. Did you hit the wrong 'reply' button?

yakshaving_jgt 5y ago

Well, that's comforting to some degree. Of course, your recount is as anecdotal as mine, and unfortunately my experience (or at least, the parts of it that confirmation bias pushes into the forefront of my recollection) has been that of more enthusiasm for crystals, homeopathy, chakras, auras, tarot cards, and other mystical bullshit. The people I'm thinking of like to believe they are against the use of animal products, while at the same time using animal products through selective oblivion. It's a bit like former PETA VP Mary Beth Sweetland not considering herself a hypocrite for condemning the use of animal products in medicine despite using animal products to treat her diabetes.

LightG 5y ago
Do you think that's the majority of any significant group out there? Get f@cking real.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
  Please contribute with something more substantive, and avoid shallow dismissals. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
SyzygistSix 5y ago
I realize the label "Libertarian" is used by a lot of people to make themselves look more virtuous by signaling that they value liberty but it is a stretch in my eyes to equate authoritarian-minded people who merely desire the state to not interfere while they gain massive wealth and power, often over other people, and genuinely anti-authoritarian people (however delusional or misguided) who would just like the state and other authoritarians to not bother them or others. I'm not a libertarian but have known plenty. None were very wealthy, nor did they want much other than a bit of land, and a small business.
- yakshaving_jgt 5y ago
  I'm not sure how that's a response to my comment — it seems unrelated. Did you hit the wrong 'reply' button?