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When web2 twitter ban an account, you are screwed, When web3 openSea ban a collection, you can always go somewhere else https://zora.co/collections/0xfEe84e71

by dezmou 5y ago

When web2 twitter ban an account, you are screwed, When web3 openSea ban a collection, you can always go somewhere else https://zora.co/collections/0xfEe84e716845ec7423c863fc72881804F8BD8441 https://zora.co/collections/0xfEe84e716845ec7423c863fc728818...

rvz 5y ago
According to the ToS of Zora [0], you are waiting to be screwed again: Under 'INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS': > We retain all ownership, title and intellectual property rights in all usernames on the Site. You acknowledge and agree that we may delete, remove or re-assign your username at any time without prior notice or compensation to you. Under 'TERM AND TERMINATION' > ...we reserve the right to, in our sole discretion and without notice or liability, deny access to and use of the Site (including blocking certain IP or device addresses), to any person for any reason or for no reason, including without limitation for breach of any representation, warranty, or covenant contained in these Terms or of any applicable law or regulation... > If we terminate or suspend your account for any reason, you are prohibited from registering and creating a new account under your name, a fake or borrowed name, or the name of any third party, even if you may be acting on behalf of the third party... Zora is no different to OpenSea, since the site can still remove your NFT for any reason, no reason and without notice (excluding if the item was found to be illegal) and ban you from creating an account on there forever. [0] https://zora.co/legal/tos https://zora.co/legal/tos
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acdha 5y ago
How is that different from switching from one web site to another one? eBay delisting you doesn't mean that you can't move to Etsy, et al. or set up your own website — the web has always been decentralized so there are many options.
- dezmou 5y ago
  We are more talking about digital assets, like owning a movie on AMAZON or a game on steam, if steam decide you don't own anymore the game, you don't own it anymore.
  - acdha 5y ago
    How do you think this would work differently? Blockchains are far too inefficient to store non-tiny content and in any scenario where access control is a problem the publisher isn’t going to put the files somewhere they don’t control. If they want to block you, they’ll block your account on the real servers no matter what the NFT receipt says. The key misunderstanding you’re making is thinking that you own something either way. What you paid for is a limited license with a legal agreement which allows them to rescind it under certain conditions. If the publishers wanted to be more generous, or gamers were willing to stop paying for terms they don’t like, they could do that now with no need to pay a third party for a distraction.

by dezmou 5y ago

rvz 5y ago

According to the ToS of Zora [0], you are waiting to be screwed again: Under 'INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS': > We retain all ownership, title and intellectual property rights in all usernames on the Site. You acknowledge and agree that we may delete, remove or re-assign your username at any time without prior notice or compensation to you. Under 'TERM AND TERMINATION' > ...we reserve the right to, in our sole discretion and without notice or liability, deny access to and use of the Site (including blocking certain IP or device addresses), to any person for any reason or for no reason, including without limitation for breach of any representation, warranty, or covenant contained in these Terms or of any applicable law or regulation... > If we terminate or suspend your account for any reason, you are prohibited from registering and creating a new account under your name, a fake or borrowed name, or the name of any third party, even if you may be acting on behalf of the third party... Zora is no different to OpenSea, since the site can still remove your NFT for any reason, no reason and without notice (excluding if the item was found to be illegal) and ban you from creating an account on there forever. [0] https://zora.co/legal/tos https://zora.co/legal/tos

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acdha 5y ago

How is that different from switching from one web site to another one? eBay delisting you doesn't mean that you can't move to Etsy, et al. or set up your own website — the web has always been decentralized so there are many options.

dezmou 5y ago
We are more talking about digital assets, like owning a movie on AMAZON or a game on steam, if steam decide you don't own anymore the game, you don't own it anymore.
- acdha 5y ago
  How do you think this would work differently? Blockchains are far too inefficient to store non-tiny content and in any scenario where access control is a problem the publisher isn’t going to put the files somewhere they don’t control. If they want to block you, they’ll block your account on the real servers no matter what the NFT receipt says. The key misunderstanding you’re making is thinking that you own something either way. What you paid for is a limited license with a legal agreement which allows them to rescind it under certain conditions. If the publishers wanted to be more generous, or gamers were willing to stop paying for terms they don’t like, they could do that now with no need to pay a third party for a distraction.