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While I agree with many points the article raised, > Well, of course it's true. I just told you. this is a very dangerous attitude for a teacher to have. Ar

While I agree with many points the article raised, > Well, of course it's true. I just told you. this is a very dangerous attitude for a teacher to have. Aristotle said that men have more teeth than women, but that does not make it so.

sliverstorm 15y ago
My mother is a teacher, and she has several anecdotes about teachers falling into traps like this. My favorite: Teacher, to parent: "(You need to listen to me.) Who do you think knows your child better? Me, or you!?"
- mavelikara 15y ago
  I was not advocating taking the child's word over the teacher's. What I found disturbing, as I explained elsewhere in the thread, is the teacher getting upset by the very act of me asking my child's opinion about the incident at hand.
slmbrhrt 15y ago
They're not speaking as a teacher, but as a person with integrity, someone who endeavors to tell only the truth, especially in a situation as grave as the discipline of a child under their watch.
- ZipCordManiac 15y ago
  They are human like the rest of us, good and bad. Do not assume integrity simply because of somebodies profession.
  - slmbrhrt 15y ago
    I already said the profession wasn't part of the consideration. Asking the child if what the teacher said is true is seen as an affront on the author's character as a person, not as a teacher, so it's reasonable for them to take offense at the accusation. It's entirely reasonable not to trust the teacher's authority by default--I'm not challenging that. I'm only defending the author's position on taking offense to being challenged on something that was just said.
- mavelikara 15y ago
  Yes, I understand. After all, I am paying for their professional, expert advice about my child and I want to give it due consideration. Nonetheless, I want to give my child a fair chance to explain her side too. If I do not do that, I fear that it will alienate my child from me. So I seek her opinion. Of course, once I hear her side, I will not trust her blindly either. The very act of doing this seems to irritate the author - which I find very disturbing. Trust, but verify, is the principle here.

sliverstorm 15y ago

My mother is a teacher, and she has several anecdotes about teachers falling into traps like this. My favorite: Teacher, to parent: "(You need to listen to me.) Who do you think knows your child better? Me, or you!?"

mavelikara 15y ago
I was not advocating taking the child's word over the teacher's. What I found disturbing, as I explained elsewhere in the thread, is the teacher getting upset by the very act of me asking my child's opinion about the incident at hand.

slmbrhrt 15y ago

They're not speaking as a teacher, but as a person with integrity, someone who endeavors to tell only the truth, especially in a situation as grave as the discipline of a child under their watch.

ZipCordManiac 15y ago
They are human like the rest of us, good and bad. Do not assume integrity simply because of somebodies profession.
- slmbrhrt 15y ago
  I already said the profession wasn't part of the consideration. Asking the child if what the teacher said is true is seen as an affront on the author's character as a person, not as a teacher, so it's reasonable for them to take offense at the accusation. It's entirely reasonable not to trust the teacher's authority by default--I'm not challenging that. I'm only defending the author's position on taking offense to being challenged on something that was just said.
mavelikara 15y ago
Yes, I understand. After all, I am paying for their professional, expert advice about my child and I want to give it due consideration. Nonetheless, I want to give my child a fair chance to explain her side too. If I do not do that, I fear that it will alienate my child from me. So I seek her opinion. Of course, once I hear her side, I will not trust her blindly either. The very act of doing this seems to irritate the author - which I find very disturbing. Trust, but verify, is the principle here.