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The result of the banality of slow-creep censorship which lots of people winked at because it was censorship they could live with. Don't worry, they said platf
by mc32 5y ago
The result of the banality of slow-creep censorship which lots of people winked at because it was censorship they could live with.
Don't worry, they said platforms have a right to censor the content they carry, they are not "dumb pipes" and many other ways people dismissed the threat from censorship.
Now we have "dumb pipes" censoring certain services as well as content.
Of course politicians love this. They will not oppose censorship. Power loves censorship.
- kevin_thibedeau 5y agoISPs are not platforms. If they want to meddle with traffic they should lose all common carrier indemnity.
- javagram 5y agoT-Mobile is supposed to block spam and scam texts like all providers, I thought? The instructions from the FCC for responding to text spam include forwarding the message to shortcode SPAM on the cellular provider, which presumably is to give them a database of spam to block in the future. https://www.fcc.gov/news-events/blog/2020/03/02/mobile-phone-texts-spam-and-scams https://www.fcc.gov/news-events/blog/2020/03/02/mobile-phone...
- mc32 5y agoThis is not that. It censors alternatives to youtube for example --The landing page not any particular content. Also, what ARE they doing (not doing) about scam/SPAM telephone calls? Nothing!
- LocalH 5y agoPretty sure they're not actually considered common carriers in the first place.
- paulryanrogers 5y agoCertain FCC chairmen would say they should be. I might even agree.
- tzs 5y agoThis seems to be about SMS, which would be part of their telephone business, not their ISP business. I believe that telephone services are common carriers.
- robgibbons 5y agoThe FCC declared that wireless text messages (SMS and MMS) are information services (Title I), not telecom services (Title II), so this type of practice is unfortunately perfectly okay with the FCC.
- int_19h 5y agoNot the first time, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Australia#Christchurch_mosque_shootings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Austral...
- pkulak 5y agoI fail to see the slippery slope here. This kinda makes me dislike T-Mobile. Same as I would dislike any other corporation that does something shitty. And lots of them do shitty things all the time. Not saying you're doing this, but people seem to have a very tenuous grasp of the 1st amendment and apply it to private entities, thus elevating some nothing-burger issue to the level of a constitutional violation.
- JaimeThompson 5y ago"slow-creep censorship" You mean like the PMRC, fundamentalist religious censorship, and what happened to groups like The Dixie Chicks? This isn't a new issue.
- mc32 5y agoExactly. Whither Tipper and Al and their PMRC? And it continues today. People want to censor some songs, but not others, because presumably some are offensive in different ways.
- JaimeThompson 5y agoI am curious as to why you didn't mention the other founders in your post. "The women who founded the PMRC are Tipper Gore, wife of Senator and later Vice President Al Gore; Susan Baker, wife of Treasury Secretary James Baker; Pam Howar, wife of Washington realtor Raymond Howar; and Sally Nevius, wife of former Washington City Council Chairman John Nevius. " "The PMRC was founded in 1985, in the shadows of rising political conservatism under president Ronald Reagan, by a group of "Washington Wives" that included Susan Baker (wife of the then Secretary of the Treasury James BakerWikipedia, Peatsy Hollins (wife of Sen. Ernest HollingsWikipedia of South Carolina), and many other Washington socialites (such as Pam Hower and Sally Nevius). Most notably, the group included Tipper Gore, wife of then-Senator, later-Vice President and inventor of the Internet Al Gore, who became the group's most outspoken member." From Wikipedia & RationalWiki