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> Voting is different from actively supporting candidates. Different things are different. You vote for a candidate because you would prefer them to win. Whic

> Voting is different from actively supporting candidates. Different things are different. You vote for a candidate because you would prefer them to win. Which is possibly included among the reasons you would support them in other ways. > Outside of lower taxes [for corporations and the wealthy primarily], there is no overlap or rational link between libertarianism and actively supporting Trump. Many libertarians support Republicans.

skinnymuch 5y ago
The thread wasn’t about voting. It was about Thiel’s active involvement. Which is the comment you directly responded to. > Many libertarians support Republicans. I don’t disagree some do that. However with you repeating this “many”. Any one can call themselves anything. It doesn’t make it so. OTOH I see no issue if the statement was “Many people who say they are libertarian support Republicans”
- throwawaylinux 5y ago
  > The thread wasn’t about voting. It was about Thiel’s active involvement. Which is the comment you directly responded to. We've moved on from that. > I don’t disagree some do that. However with you repeating this “many”. Any one can call themselves anything. It doesn’t make it so. OTOH I see no issue if the statement was “Many people who say they are libertarian support Republicans” Well you're just wrong about that. https://www.cato.org/blog/how-many-libertarians-are-there-answer-depends-method-you-use https://www.cato.org/blog/how-many-libertarians-are-there-an... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-o... Roughly 10-20% of people are libertarians not only how they identify but their stance on various issues. And yet votes, political donations, lobbying, party membership, etc. is far more skewed to the two big parties. Which means they are pragmatic and send their votes and support to where it might make the best difference. Like most people. Many libertarians support Republicans. I'm really quite astounded you're having such a big problem coping with that.
  - Talanes 5y ago
    > We've moved on from that. Well, you keep moving on from it and everyone who replies on you keeps trying to move back toward the original topic.
    - throwawaylinux 5y ago
      No try to keep up, we moved on from the other poster's pedantic distraction about voting vs "active support" back to the original topic which is that Thiel is a libertarian and the fact he supports Republicans is not evidence he isn't one.
      - Talanes 5y ago
        >No try to keep up, we moved on from the other poster's pedantic distraction about voting Other poster? You brought it up the first time and have brought it up in every post since.
        throwawaylinux 5y ago
        Bringing it back on topic yet again: if you agree Thiel is a libertarian and the fact he supports Republicans is not evidence he isn't one then we don't need to say any more here.
        Talanes 5y ago
        He supported a dude whose platform was mostly right-leaning populism. If he was just supporting Republicans because they were the closest to Libertarian ideals, why would support the dude driving the party away from Libertarian ideals?
        skinnymuch 5y ago
        And continue supporting the person. I checked Thiel headlines. He’s working with Don Jr now against Liz Cheney for a Trump approved replacement. This is just recent headlines too. Thanks for your insightful comments

skinnymuch 5y ago

The thread wasn’t about voting. It was about Thiel’s active involvement. Which is the comment you directly responded to. > Many libertarians support Republicans. I don’t disagree some do that. However with you repeating this “many”. Any one can call themselves anything. It doesn’t make it so. OTOH I see no issue if the statement was “Many people who say they are libertarian support Republicans”

throwawaylinux 5y ago
> The thread wasn’t about voting. It was about Thiel’s active involvement. Which is the comment you directly responded to. We've moved on from that. > I don’t disagree some do that. However with you repeating this “many”. Any one can call themselves anything. It doesn’t make it so. OTOH I see no issue if the statement was “Many people who say they are libertarian support Republicans” Well you're just wrong about that. https://www.cato.org/blog/how-many-libertarians-are-there-answer-depends-method-you-use https://www.cato.org/blog/how-many-libertarians-are-there-an... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-of-libertarians/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/08/25/in-search-o... Roughly 10-20% of people are libertarians not only how they identify but their stance on various issues. And yet votes, political donations, lobbying, party membership, etc. is far more skewed to the two big parties. Which means they are pragmatic and send their votes and support to where it might make the best difference. Like most people. Many libertarians support Republicans. I'm really quite astounded you're having such a big problem coping with that.
- Talanes 5y ago
  > We've moved on from that. Well, you keep moving on from it and everyone who replies on you keeps trying to move back toward the original topic.
  - throwawaylinux 5y ago
    No try to keep up, we moved on from the other poster's pedantic distraction about voting vs "active support" back to the original topic which is that Thiel is a libertarian and the fact he supports Republicans is not evidence he isn't one.
    - Talanes 5y ago
      >No try to keep up, we moved on from the other poster's pedantic distraction about voting Other poster? You brought it up the first time and have brought it up in every post since.
      - throwawaylinux 5y ago
        Bringing it back on topic yet again: if you agree Thiel is a libertarian and the fact he supports Republicans is not evidence he isn't one then we don't need to say any more here.
        Talanes 5y ago
        He supported a dude whose platform was mostly right-leaning populism. If he was just supporting Republicans because they were the closest to Libertarian ideals, why would support the dude driving the party away from Libertarian ideals?
        skinnymuch 5y ago
        And continue supporting the person. I checked Thiel headlines. He’s working with Don Jr now against Liz Cheney for a Trump approved replacement. This is just recent headlines too. Thanks for your insightful comments