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If you can not trust your suppliers then why do you continue to do business with them? How many times has Foxconn been in the news for the same sort of issues?

If you can not trust your suppliers then why do you continue to do business with them? How many times has Foxconn been in the news for the same sort of issues? Is Apple not aware of that? Is Apple unable to find a supplier who can meet their needs? You say that Apple does a good job, they publish reports and so on. I say bullshit. Apple accepts the status quo and does the bare minimum to make people think they care. Same as Nike and everyone else. Sure, you don't get the same reports from some companies. That just means that they are not trying to blow as much smoke up your ass. If Apple or anyone else was serious about doing something they would. In 2007, the tech press was all aglow with the wonder that Apple could command a production change a month before shipping https://www.cnet.com/news/a-tale-of-apple-the-iphone-and-overseas-manufacturing/ https://www.cnet.com/news/a-tale-of-apple-the-iphone-and-ove... Now poor Apple is helpless and at the mercy of their suppliers? You want to hear a solution? Apple, Microsoft, Samsung and who ever start a joint venture assembly. They choose and hire the management. They have representatives at the factory. The reason they do not is because they do not want to pay what it costs to be done right. If they wanted to, they could. They are smart and powerful people, any excuses are just bullshit.

quitit 5y ago
I mean I could go through this bit by bit and provide good rationales for why things are the way they are, cite my own examples and provide links to industry whitepapers and even detail the numerous ways that such companies do indeed improve their supply chain (even how they do quite a bit of their own assembly as you casually solve major problems with little more than 5 seconds of thought)... but I've learnt that certain figures on HN are not interested in resolving the real issue (nor do they really care) and the facts are disinteresting to such people because you could have looked up plenty of counter-statements to what you've stated there. No, it's the drama you want, and you want it to be loud and about specific brands that you don't personally like. That's why I don't bother.

quitit 5y ago

I mean I could go through this bit by bit and provide good rationales for why things are the way they are, cite my own examples and provide links to industry whitepapers and even detail the numerous ways that such companies do indeed improve their supply chain (even how they do quite a bit of their own assembly as you casually solve major problems with little more than 5 seconds of thought)... but I've learnt that certain figures on HN are not interested in resolving the real issue (nor do they really care) and the facts are disinteresting to such people because you could have looked up plenty of counter-statements to what you've stated there. No, it's the drama you want, and you want it to be loud and about specific brands that you don't personally like. That's why I don't bother.