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Any (ex) CEO that doesn't know why they got fired by someone reading a lawyer's script obviously doesn't have a clue how things work. A firing of that magnitud

Any (ex) CEO that doesn't know why they got fired by someone reading a lawyer's script obviously doesn't have a clue how things work. A firing of that magnitude has to go by the book, and they have to close every legal loophole they can. No personal messages, no teary goodbyes... Just a lawyer's letter. The phonecall method seems horrible, but what was the alternative? You don't want them in the building because you don't want a scene, either from their being hysterical, or from the guards escorting them to the door. A letter could only be worse. No, they played this by the book, and she's upset about them doing things correctly. And badmouthing them over it. The personal insult during the phone call really shows her character.

thirsteh 15y ago
She's very good at making sure no one else will hire her.
- danilocampos 15y ago
  Bartz was brought out of retirement to fix the impossible, useless mess that is Yahoo!. She's going to get a fatty severance package. I think she's going to be fine.
Geekette 15y ago
Asking the caller why he didn't have the balls to tell her in person (a valid question) and stating that she thought he was classier do not constitute a personal insult. You're the board chair, about to execute a big decision like this, you do it in person. Being on a plane is no excuse; re-route your trip or delay the execution by 1 day until you're face-to-face. Even the most junior employees usually get fired in person. If anyone creates a scene, that's what on-site security is there for, although exchanging words behind a closed door meeting with very few people present is probably the most that would have occurred. Fuck it, I find her candor refreshing, regardless of surrounding issues.
danilocampos 15y ago
> Any (ex) CEO that doesn't know why they got fired by someone reading a lawyer's script obviously doesn't have a clue how things work. I want to be clear, here: you're telling me that it is your position that someone who was CEO of Autodesk – not exactly a shareware developer or anything – served in that role for 14 years and oversaw its rise to dominance over its space... doesn't "have a clue" how things work? Is it possible that she simply expected a little better than a phone call, given that she's the CEO of the company? > The personal insult during the phone call really shows her character. It does. It shows me she's a straight talker and the sort of person who expects the same from others. I like those kinds of people – with them, I always know where I stand. Fuck the phonies.
- wccrawford 15y ago
  I love straight talkers. Insults like that are not 'straight talk'. She could easily have said, "I expected better than this." It's just as straight without the personal insult. Edit: I keep thinking about this and getting more incensed. Being abusive is not straight talking. There's no need to attack him personally. Ever. She can say that the entire company has let her down... But she can't attack him personally. Abuse like this is simply not acceptable. And a CEO should know better.
  - earl 15y ago
    Incensed? Did someone get his fee fees hurt? She told it like it is.
  - cbs 15y ago
    >Insults like that are not 'straight talk'. She could easily have said, "I expected better than this." Self-censoring is still self-censoring.
- Supermighty 15y ago
  It shows me she's quick to anger and slow to control herself. Not someone I would want to work with.

thirsteh 15y ago

She's very good at making sure no one else will hire her.

danilocampos 15y ago
Bartz was brought out of retirement to fix the impossible, useless mess that is Yahoo!. She's going to get a fatty severance package. I think she's going to be fine.

Geekette 15y ago

Asking the caller why he didn't have the balls to tell her in person (a valid question) and stating that she thought he was classier do not constitute a personal insult. You're the board chair, about to execute a big decision like this, you do it in person. Being on a plane is no excuse; re-route your trip or delay the execution by 1 day until you're face-to-face. Even the most junior employees usually get fired in person. If anyone creates a scene, that's what on-site security is there for, although exchanging words behind a closed door meeting with very few people present is probably the most that would have occurred. Fuck it, I find her candor refreshing, regardless of surrounding issues.

danilocampos 15y ago

> Any (ex) CEO that doesn't know why they got fired by someone reading a lawyer's script obviously doesn't have a clue how things work. I want to be clear, here: you're telling me that it is your position that someone who was CEO of Autodesk – not exactly a shareware developer or anything – served in that role for 14 years and oversaw its rise to dominance over its space... doesn't "have a clue" how things work? Is it possible that she simply expected a little better than a phone call, given that she's the CEO of the company? > The personal insult during the phone call really shows her character. It does. It shows me she's a straight talker and the sort of person who expects the same from others. I like those kinds of people – with them, I always know where I stand. Fuck the phonies.

wccrawford 15y ago
I love straight talkers. Insults like that are not 'straight talk'. She could easily have said, "I expected better than this." It's just as straight without the personal insult. Edit: I keep thinking about this and getting more incensed. Being abusive is not straight talking. There's no need to attack him personally. Ever. She can say that the entire company has let her down... But she can't attack him personally. Abuse like this is simply not acceptable. And a CEO should know better.
- earl 15y ago
  Incensed? Did someone get his fee fees hurt? She told it like it is.
- cbs 15y ago
  >Insults like that are not 'straight talk'. She could easily have said, "I expected better than this." Self-censoring is still self-censoring.
Supermighty 15y ago
It shows me she's quick to anger and slow to control herself. Not someone I would want to work with.