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It doesn't sound as if he was proposing to remove women's right to vote, according to this article (first hit in search): https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-t
by kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
It doesn't sound as if he was proposing to remove women's right to vote, according to this article (first hit in search): https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n_5747079be4b03ede4413f6f5 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/peter-thiel-women-democracy_n...
"It would be absurd to suggest that women’s votes will be taken away or that this would solve the political problems that vex us. While I don’t think any class of people should be disenfranchised, I have little hope that voting will make things better."
Nevertheless it should be possible to discuss the results of giving women the right to vote. The main difference from state of affairs before that presumably being that people got to vote on things they did not have direct stakes in.
Or to give a modern example: afaik more women are opposed to abortion than men, so giving women the right the vote makes it less likely that abortion is legalized. At least some people would consider that a negative outcome.
- tartoran 5y ago> more women are opposed to abortion than men Source please?
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoFor example here: https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2014/apr/30/why-are-women-more-opposed-to-abortion https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2014/a...
- JohnTHaller 5y ago> afaik more women are opposed to abortion than men, so giving women the right the vote makes it less likely that abortion is legalized A single Google search would tell you that's entirely wrong: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/245618/abortion-trends-gender.a...
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago"Entirely Wrong" - are you looking at the same chart? According to the chart, most of the time the "entirely illegal" numbers are higher for women than for men. And that is just one poll. A single Google search also produces results like this, which claims much larger differences: https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2014/apr/30/why-are-women-more-opposed-to-abortion https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2014/a... "Other polls have appeared since that article, and they show the same thing. A 2013 YouGov poll on behalf of the University of Lancaster found 26% of men supporting a reduction or ban, versus 43% of women."
- JohnTHaller 5y agoAccording to the article I linked in a Gallup poll earlier in 2021, 81% of women support abortion (36% under all conditions, 45% under some) and 79% of men support abortion (29% under all conditions, 50% under some). 52% of women consider themselves pro-life and 5% are unsure. 45% of men consider themselves pro-life and 5% are unsure. You linked to an article from 2014 about surveys from 2011.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y agoThe numbers from the Guardian article are drastically different from the ones by Gallup, and even Gallup has women in the "lead" for most years. Mostly the very recent years in Gallup have slightly less women than men saying it should be completely illegal. So I don't think the Gallup source settles it.