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Excellent point! I think id like to reiterate my "yes and" stance- your critique of what is lacking doesnt dismiss , it acknowledges the claims but asks for mor
by quinnjh 5y ago
Excellent point! I think id like to reiterate my "yes and" stance- your critique of what is lacking doesnt dismiss , it acknowledges the claims but asks for more of a proof. I think thats good rigor.
- dnissley 5y agoThis is all well and good, but how does one deal with the reality of Brandolini's law? At what point are we allowed to say "this is a bad faith effort, and I reserve my right to dismiss it on those grounds -- to hell with this nonsense". If we never stand up and say that, it seems to me we are risking the cultural foundations of society for the sake of what? Rhetorical purity? As if nothing else was at stake?!
- quinnjh 5y agoRisking the cultural foundation? To admit that people in the past acted with racial bias? Really? To me that is literally cultural fragility. To fail to depart from the purity of the past myth you cling to suggests you lack the resilience to embrace the totality of what actually was. Not saying you dont have a point- not saying we toss it all or slander everyone as evil- im saying we reckon with the complexity - the grey space between 0 and 1 if we want to actually realize the founding fathers very noble ideals. I dont think this article made a very good attempt at it , and i think the previous comments pointing out what was lacking in relation to other "good" articles was the sort of "yes and" im referring to. Though since you have no interest in rhetorical purity i should probably take your advice and dismiss the comment entirely as not being "in good faith" , right coach? ;p