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> It's impossible to just 'enhance' an image to make a license plate readable. Well, a phone can reconstruct this license plate, and in fact any license plate

> It's impossible to just 'enhance' an image to make a license plate readable. Well, a phone can reconstruct this license plate, and in fact any license plate in lieu of this one! And invent a new one! Which is worrisome for justice. Presenting proof, that was uploaded to servers, horodated and geostamped, won’t be enough in a court of law. Anyone can answer: “What if the iPhone recreated and inferred the presence of a knife using the neural engine? This face, is it real? The distance, is it repositionned?”

hughrr 5y ago
That has always been the case for photographs from every device that has ever been capable of recording images.
- sodality2 5y ago
  Film camera?
  - hughrr 5y ago
    Yes especially film cameras.
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
> This face, is it real? The distance, is it repositionned? Deepfakes, robocalls and Caller ID and voice impersonation, automatic ML in photos, if this train keeps going, we won't know what's real at all. I am struggling to see how we will function.
- nimbleal 5y ago
  > we won't know what's real at all. I am struggling to see how we will function That's where we started, in a way. Perhaps our short time of feeling we had a grip on reality will just have been a passing phase, before returning to normality.
  - ruined 5y ago
    the difference is, before media, everyone understood that if they didn't experience something directly, they had to trust someone who spoke, and that speech was always understood to be an interpretation and possibly fiction. but now we have all these artificial experiences that might clock real to the senses and have a reputation of fidelity, yet have always been editable and are increasingly made of black box constructive interpretations that value who-knows-what over fidelity. and no part of the process can be interrogated for motivations or detail.
- pishpash 5y ago
  You will need a transcript of processing and intermediate results.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    But how do you know a particular transcript is not fake?

hughrr 5y ago

That has always been the case for photographs from every device that has ever been capable of recording images.

sodality2 5y ago
Film camera?
- hughrr 5y ago
  Yes especially film cameras.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

> This face, is it real? The distance, is it repositionned? Deepfakes, robocalls and Caller ID and voice impersonation, automatic ML in photos, if this train keeps going, we won't know what's real at all. I am struggling to see how we will function.

nimbleal 5y ago
> we won't know what's real at all. I am struggling to see how we will function That's where we started, in a way. Perhaps our short time of feeling we had a grip on reality will just have been a passing phase, before returning to normality.
- ruined 5y ago
  the difference is, before media, everyone understood that if they didn't experience something directly, they had to trust someone who spoke, and that speech was always understood to be an interpretation and possibly fiction. but now we have all these artificial experiences that might clock real to the senses and have a reputation of fidelity, yet have always been editable and are increasingly made of black box constructive interpretations that value who-knows-what over fidelity. and no part of the process can be interrogated for motivations or detail.
pishpash 5y ago
You will need a transcript of processing and intermediate results.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  But how do you know a particular transcript is not fake?