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I was trying to find an all-electric 7-seater the other day. The market for this type of vehicle is nearly non-existent in the US, but for a brief moment I thou

I was trying to find an all-electric 7-seater the other day. The market for this type of vehicle is nearly non-existent in the US, but for a brief moment I thought the Citroen e-Berlingo was the answer to my prayers: far superior in range and price point to any competing US vehicle. I was ready to look past the fugly Euro design and pony up. But of course, they don't sell in America. So, so much for that.

xwolfi 5y ago
No, it's not that they dont sell there, it s that you dont buy them. Too busy buying pickup truck-sized machines to 16yo children and calling everything not spitting black diesel smoke "fugly Euro" :p
- civilized 5y ago
  Ah right, we "ugly Americans" are always pretending to know things we don't know, like whether a car dealer we wish to buy from sells in our own market. We should defer to our international betters on these sort of basic facts, as well as on the appropriate number of random blue rounded rectangular rings that should appear on the exterior of a car (the answer, apparently, is much more)
  - xwolfi 5y ago
    Well I don't know about blue rounded rectangular rings, but I like the american attention to such details as making sure your trunk has a separator and an inside handle if people kidnap you at gunpoint and put you in your own trunk. This takes time for us in France to build such cars with such sort of regulations that you won't buy anyway because they're just fugly euro and not manly japanese. Start lobbying your congressman for more Citroen imports though, who knows, it may last a while before the next "Liberty Fries" boycott because someone here refused to murder some children in some "shit country" :p
QuarterReptile 5y ago
Chrysler Pacifica, though only for the first (estimated) 33 miles. Still, I've been very tempted as I shop around minivans. 33 miles is enough for almost any day of my driving, aside from trips. If I'm regularly exceeding that distance in a day, it's time for me to move somewhere more compact.
- civilized 5y ago
  The e-Berlingo has a range of 171 miles. It's embarrassing what we're stuck with over here.
  - QuarterReptile 5y ago
    A shame that's not on offer in North America. OTOH, looking at the XL (which has 7 seats rather than 5), cold weather highway range is only 140km. I suspect that this accomplishes more in Europe than it does in the US; in any case, I see enormous value in having PHEV range for daily tasks while retaining the engine for family trips, which quickly get into the hundreds of miles.

xwolfi 5y ago

No, it's not that they dont sell there, it s that you dont buy them. Too busy buying pickup truck-sized machines to 16yo children and calling everything not spitting black diesel smoke "fugly Euro" :p

civilized 5y ago
Ah right, we "ugly Americans" are always pretending to know things we don't know, like whether a car dealer we wish to buy from sells in our own market. We should defer to our international betters on these sort of basic facts, as well as on the appropriate number of random blue rounded rectangular rings that should appear on the exterior of a car (the answer, apparently, is much more)
- xwolfi 5y ago
  Well I don't know about blue rounded rectangular rings, but I like the american attention to such details as making sure your trunk has a separator and an inside handle if people kidnap you at gunpoint and put you in your own trunk. This takes time for us in France to build such cars with such sort of regulations that you won't buy anyway because they're just fugly euro and not manly japanese. Start lobbying your congressman for more Citroen imports though, who knows, it may last a while before the next "Liberty Fries" boycott because someone here refused to murder some children in some "shit country" :p

QuarterReptile 5y ago

Chrysler Pacifica, though only for the first (estimated) 33 miles. Still, I've been very tempted as I shop around minivans. 33 miles is enough for almost any day of my driving, aside from trips. If I'm regularly exceeding that distance in a day, it's time for me to move somewhere more compact.

civilized 5y ago
The e-Berlingo has a range of 171 miles. It's embarrassing what we're stuck with over here.
- QuarterReptile 5y ago
  A shame that's not on offer in North America. OTOH, looking at the XL (which has 7 seats rather than 5), cold weather highway range is only 140km. I suspect that this accomplishes more in Europe than it does in the US; in any case, I see enormous value in having PHEV range for daily tasks while retaining the engine for family trips, which quickly get into the hundreds of miles.