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Are they not vaccinated? Do they not trust that the vaccine works, at least as far as preventing serious illness?

magicalhippo 5y ago
Here in Norway the vaccine rollout for non-critical people followed just age brackets. So I, a programmer with zero issues working from home, got the vaccine weeks before tons of younger teachers, who had to go to class each day and meet kids which could potentially infect them. I guess it would be complicated if they had to start introducing multiple levels, or some sort of "you can have my seat" functionality, still...
- phamilton 5y ago
  In most US states teachers were prioritized along with firefighters, health workers, etc.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    At least my state had a variety of non-age-related (self-reported) criteria for phases of eligibility including occupational and various health conditions.
NikolaeVarius 5y ago
Yes they are. At least one of them has their health compromised and breakthrough cases have been a thing since day 1. Also, they work with a LOT of kids, so that alot more chances for exposure. They are not dumb.
HarryHirsch 5y ago
- criley2 5y ago
  This is false. The current vaccine still makes one about 60x less likely to die of covid than being unvaccinated. It's ineffective at preventing infection to omicron, but highly effective at preventing death.
  - HarryHirsch 5y ago
    I read that the risk of death is reduced about tenfold, and meanwhile you are still infectious. Not a risk I am willing to take. Why are non-pharmaceutical interventions downplayed? Where are the promised paid sick days?
    - 13415 5y ago
      I'm not sure I understand you correctly. You do not want to take a vaccine that provides a tenfold reduction of the risk of dying from the Omicron variant? Or are you arguing that vaccinations with the existing vaccines should continue until better vaccines are available, in combination with other measures such as lockdowns, mask wearing, mandatory testing and quarantine, etc. If it's the latter, that's what most countries are doing right now. If it's the former, then I don't understand your position.
      - HarryHirsch 5y ago
        What I'm saying is that current vaccines are quite ineffectual against the present strain of the virus, and that NPI's, such as masking, social distancing, testing and quarantine are effective but not used. Having schools open in an active phase of the pandemic is the exact opposite of what should be done, that's how the virus spreads between households. Under the Orange Menace we had financial support for those who lost their jobs and loans for businesses that lost customers whereas the present administration fails to deliver at every front. They can't even do the promised paid sick leave. That's what would be needed now, instead we get shortened quarantine periods. You can't even get a quicktest if you wanted to.
        13415 5y ago

Here in Norway the vaccine rollout for non-critical people followed just age brackets. So I, a programmer with zero issues working from home, got the vaccine weeks before tons of younger teachers, who had to go to class each day and meet kids which could potentially infect them. I guess it would be complicated if they had to start introducing multiple levels, or some sort of "you can have my seat" functionality, still...

phamilton 5y ago
In most US states teachers were prioritized along with firefighters, health workers, etc.
- ghaff 5y ago
  At least my state had a variety of non-age-related (self-reported) criteria for phases of eligibility including occupational and various health conditions.

NikolaeVarius 5y ago

Yes they are. At least one of them has their health compromised and breakthrough cases have been a thing since day 1. Also, they work with a LOT of kids, so that alot more chances for exposure. They are not dumb.

HarryHirsch 5y ago

criley2 5y ago
This is false. The current vaccine still makes one about 60x less likely to die of covid than being unvaccinated. It's ineffective at preventing infection to omicron, but highly effective at preventing death.
- HarryHirsch 5y ago
  I read that the risk of death is reduced about tenfold, and meanwhile you are still infectious. Not a risk I am willing to take. Why are non-pharmaceutical interventions downplayed? Where are the promised paid sick days?
  - 13415 5y ago
    I'm not sure I understand you correctly. You do not want to take a vaccine that provides a tenfold reduction of the risk of dying from the Omicron variant? Or are you arguing that vaccinations with the existing vaccines should continue until better vaccines are available, in combination with other measures such as lockdowns, mask wearing, mandatory testing and quarantine, etc. If it's the latter, that's what most countries are doing right now. If it's the former, then I don't understand your position.
    - HarryHirsch 5y ago
      What I'm saying is that current vaccines are quite ineffectual against the present strain of the virus, and that NPI's, such as masking, social distancing, testing and quarantine are effective but not used. Having schools open in an active phase of the pandemic is the exact opposite of what should be done, that's how the virus spreads between households. Under the Orange Menace we had financial support for those who lost their jobs and loans for businesses that lost customers whereas the present administration fails to deliver at every front. They can't even do the promised paid sick leave. That's what would be needed now, instead we get shortened quarantine periods. You can't even get a quicktest if you wanted to.
      - 13415 5y ago