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Why even publish this tbh? I mean it's good they're doing that, but advertising a leak with so few people affected seems weird to me.

Ekaros 5y ago
In Europe notifying of leaks is mandatory. And when police is doing it it tends to leak, so better do it themselves too.
everydaybro 5y ago
it's a level of honesty that we are not used to it
tux3 5y ago
Japan has been known to apologize publicly when a train runs a couple minutes late.
- iszomer 5y ago
  Japan has also been known to cram passengers into trains during rush hour. I imagine this practice has probably been fervently deprecated due to covid19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ
  - Zircom 5y ago
    That seems like a personal decision to get into the already crowded car instead of waiting for the next one, I don't imagine someone is standing at the station platform and forcing more people into the train car against their will.
    - iszomer 5y ago
      Yes, people willingly got on the train and the platform stewards helped.
jen20 5y ago
I’m not familiar with Japanese law, but frankly leaking information about a _single_ person should be cause for a breach notification everywhere. The fact that it isn’t is indicative of the fact that profit is placed over privacy so often.
- robbedpeter 5y ago
  The real data pirates are the big data surveillance overlords.
qmarchi 5y ago
Japanese culture is very strict about being being precise and having high expectations of each other and of companies in general. Some may not know this, but trains, and railcars in Japan are accurate _down to the second_ and if there's any deviation from that, the management company for the line will generally offer an apology to the riders. The easiest one I could find was from 2017 where a train left the station 20s earlier than scheduled. Source: https://www.mir.co.jp/assets_rti/pdf/2017.11.14.pdf https://www.mir.co.jp/assets_rti/pdf/2017.11.14.pdf
- ace2358 5y ago
  I’m under the impression it’s a similar thing in Sweden regarding trains. I heard they give you money to cover a taxi if the train is late by a few minutes or something.
  - medstrom 5y ago
    They don't give money, but they do get you a taxi if you missed your train change. Alternatively, a night at a nearby hotel and a new trip the next morning.
    - dagw 5y ago
      Only if there is no other option. If there's another train in three hours, then you are waiting three hours.
  - dagw 5y ago
    I heard they give you money to cover a taxi if the train is late by a few minutes or something. LOL. If that was true the Swedish train companies would have been bankrupt decades ago. Swedish trains are extremely unreliable. As someone who used to take the Stockholm-Gothenburg train a lot for work I was happy every time I arrived less than an hour late.
    - im3w1l 5y ago
      With Stockholm public transport, you get up to $130 for a taxi if the (expected) delay is more than 20 minutes. My guess is that it works out fincancially because so few people know about it / can be arsed to send in the paperwork. For intercity routes you get 25% off the ticket after 1h delay and 50% after 2h delay.
myrandomcomment 5y ago
This is Japan. If someone finds an item on the street it will be dropped off at the nearest Kōban box (small police station that are everywhere). I lost a pair of sunglasses once that were $$ that I cared about them. I had a rough idea of were I lost them. The next day I went to the local Kōban and sure enough they had them. Lots paperwork to get them back as it is Japan. https://jref.com/articles/koban-japanese-police-boxes.199/ https://jref.com/articles/koban-japanese-police-boxes.199/
- the_af 5y ago
  > If someone finds an item on the street it will be dropped off at the nearest Kōban box Unless it's an umbrella. For some magical reason, umbrellas are excempt from this rule and can be taken from wherever by anyone. I lost a cheap umbrella like this during a trip, and read about it and apparently it's the one item it's definitely not safe to leave unattended in Japan. Go figure!
  - myrandomcomment 5y ago
    This is very true. Cheap umbrellas are a community item. :)
fomine3 5y ago
Isn't leak notification normal in the US?

Ekaros 5y ago

In Europe notifying of leaks is mandatory. And when police is doing it it tends to leak, so better do it themselves too.

everydaybro 5y ago

it's a level of honesty that we are not used to it

tux3 5y ago

Japan has been known to apologize publicly when a train runs a couple minutes late.

iszomer 5y ago
Japan has also been known to cram passengers into trains during rush hour. I imagine this practice has probably been fervently deprecated due to covid19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7kor5nHtZQ
- Zircom 5y ago
  That seems like a personal decision to get into the already crowded car instead of waiting for the next one, I don't imagine someone is standing at the station platform and forcing more people into the train car against their will.
  - iszomer 5y ago
    Yes, people willingly got on the train and the platform stewards helped.

jen20 5y ago

I’m not familiar with Japanese law, but frankly leaking information about a _single_ person should be cause for a breach notification everywhere. The fact that it isn’t is indicative of the fact that profit is placed over privacy so often.

robbedpeter 5y ago
The real data pirates are the big data surveillance overlords.

qmarchi 5y ago

Japanese culture is very strict about being being precise and having high expectations of each other and of companies in general. Some may not know this, but trains, and railcars in Japan are accurate _down to the second_ and if there's any deviation from that, the management company for the line will generally offer an apology to the riders. The easiest one I could find was from 2017 where a train left the station 20s earlier than scheduled. Source: https://www.mir.co.jp/assets_rti/pdf/2017.11.14.pdf https://www.mir.co.jp/assets_rti/pdf/2017.11.14.pdf

ace2358 5y ago
I’m under the impression it’s a similar thing in Sweden regarding trains. I heard they give you money to cover a taxi if the train is late by a few minutes or something.
- medstrom 5y ago
  They don't give money, but they do get you a taxi if you missed your train change. Alternatively, a night at a nearby hotel and a new trip the next morning.
  - dagw 5y ago
    Only if there is no other option. If there's another train in three hours, then you are waiting three hours.
- dagw 5y ago
  I heard they give you money to cover a taxi if the train is late by a few minutes or something. LOL. If that was true the Swedish train companies would have been bankrupt decades ago. Swedish trains are extremely unreliable. As someone who used to take the Stockholm-Gothenburg train a lot for work I was happy every time I arrived less than an hour late.
  - im3w1l 5y ago
    With Stockholm public transport, you get up to $130 for a taxi if the (expected) delay is more than 20 minutes. My guess is that it works out fincancially because so few people know about it / can be arsed to send in the paperwork. For intercity routes you get 25% off the ticket after 1h delay and 50% after 2h delay.

myrandomcomment 5y ago

This is Japan. If someone finds an item on the street it will be dropped off at the nearest Kōban box (small police station that are everywhere). I lost a pair of sunglasses once that were $$ that I cared about them. I had a rough idea of were I lost them. The next day I went to the local Kōban and sure enough they had them. Lots paperwork to get them back as it is Japan. https://jref.com/articles/koban-japanese-police-boxes.199/ https://jref.com/articles/koban-japanese-police-boxes.199/

the_af 5y ago
> If someone finds an item on the street it will be dropped off at the nearest Kōban box Unless it's an umbrella. For some magical reason, umbrellas are excempt from this rule and can be taken from wherever by anyone. I lost a cheap umbrella like this during a trip, and read about it and apparently it's the one item it's definitely not safe to leave unattended in Japan. Go figure!
- myrandomcomment 5y ago
  This is very true. Cheap umbrellas are a community item. :)

fomine3 5y ago

Isn't leak notification normal in the US?