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And what can we learn from this story? Middle-Left coalitions are actually a pretty good idea.

by usrbinbash 5y ago

iqanq 5y ago
As if data retention was the only thing the government had to decide on...
- johnnycerberus 5y ago
  To be fair, data retention is a hot topic right now in Europe, the pandemic and the increased screen time that resulted from it, the amount of accounts we had to create left and right require new regulations.
  - iqanq 5y ago
    I live in Europe and the only hot topic I can think of, apart from the virus, is energy prices. The same energy prices the center-left wants to increase via CO2 taxes.
    - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
      >I live in Europe and the only hot topic I can think of, apart from the virus, is energy prices. And real estate prices. Don't forget the insane real estate market.
      - iqanq 5y ago
        Ah indeed. But that bubble has been in the making for 10+ years. It's not a topic of conversation because we are all used to it.
    - chmod775 5y ago
      > The same energy prices the center-left wants to increase via CO2 taxes. The alternative is worse. Fire is hot. Water is wet.
      - iqanq 5y ago
        The alternative of poor people being able to heat their homes? Yes, that would indeed be terrible.
        chmod775 5y ago
        We're lucky then that center-left is precisely the government you want to provide financial support to poor households. In fact, for heating, this is already happening pretty much everywhere in Europe where households otherwise wouldn't be able to pay those bills.
dsnr 5y ago
- deleted 5y ago
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- weinzierl 5y ago
  the current one is more right-center-left You wouldn't label the Labour Party or the The Greens right wing? If "right" in your sentence refers to the Free Democratic Party (FDP) the abolishment of the data retention regulation would even be a "right wing initiative", which is kind of funny. Not sure if I agree, the only thing that's certain for the FDP nowadays is that they lack a clear profile.
  - dsnr 5y ago
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    - Krasnol 5y ago
      Whatever you're using, it's not in German sense and since Germany is the topic here: the old coalition was more right than the current and the current is not "whatever"-right.
- okl 5y ago
  > The previous ruling coalition was also center-left. That's not true. Maybe center-left compared to US politics.
  - dsnr 5y ago
    CDU is a center catch-all party, and SPD is a left party. Which part is not true? I wasn't referring to US politics, this is a thread about Germany.
    - Aerroon 5y ago
      Why does everything list CDU as a catch-all for centre-right then? It's even on the wiki.
trompetenaccoun 5y ago
More like that people do not read articles. They're discussing mandatory vaccinations, they are talking about banning Telegram, with Buschmann saying he's not pro ban but wants to censor Telegram content like they already censor other social media. It's a huge thorn in their claws that they don't control this platform because they're based outside the West. The new chancellor is corrupt and helped cover up the embazzling of over 60 billion euros in the largest tax fraud in German history (CumEx). Forgive me for being skeptical. This is likely smoke and mirrors, just like their announcement to legalize cannabis to distract young voters from all the scandals and authoritarian policies.
- usrbinbash 5y ago
  Mandatory vaccinations helped to eradicate smallpox. And yes, social media providers have to get their act together if they want to do business in Europe.
  - trompetenaccoun 5y ago
    Vaccination isn't going to eradicate SARS, you don't understand how coronaviruses work. If it were that easy we'd already have eradicated a whole bunch of viruses. Any year now the flu is going to be eradicated, just gotta vax more. /s
    - usrbinbash 5y ago
      > Vaccination isn't going to eradicate SARS Did I say it it would? Pretty sure I was talking about smallpox, as a general example how mandatory vaccinations helped in the past. Also, COVID and SARS are two different diseases, caused by different Coronaviridae. Vaccination makes COVID less likely to spread through the population, and can prevent a severe course of the illness.
      - trompetenaccoun 5y ago
        Oh and COVID means COronaVirus Disease. SARS is a coronavirus, both of them are coronaviruses.

And what can we learn from this story? Middle-Left coalitions are actually a pretty good idea.

iqanq 5y ago

As if data retention was the only thing the government had to decide on...

johnnycerberus 5y ago
To be fair, data retention is a hot topic right now in Europe, the pandemic and the increased screen time that resulted from it, the amount of accounts we had to create left and right require new regulations.
- iqanq 5y ago
  I live in Europe and the only hot topic I can think of, apart from the virus, is energy prices. The same energy prices the center-left wants to increase via CO2 taxes.
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    >I live in Europe and the only hot topic I can think of, apart from the virus, is energy prices. And real estate prices. Don't forget the insane real estate market.
    - iqanq 5y ago
      Ah indeed. But that bubble has been in the making for 10+ years. It's not a topic of conversation because we are all used to it.
  - chmod775 5y ago
    > The same energy prices the center-left wants to increase via CO2 taxes. The alternative is worse. Fire is hot. Water is wet.
    - iqanq 5y ago
      The alternative of poor people being able to heat their homes? Yes, that would indeed be terrible.
      - chmod775 5y ago
        We're lucky then that center-left is precisely the government you want to provide financial support to poor households. In fact, for heating, this is already happening pretty much everywhere in Europe where households otherwise wouldn't be able to pay those bills.

dsnr 5y ago

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weinzierl 5y ago
the current one is more right-center-left You wouldn't label the Labour Party or the The Greens right wing? If "right" in your sentence refers to the Free Democratic Party (FDP) the abolishment of the data retention regulation would even be a "right wing initiative", which is kind of funny. Not sure if I agree, the only thing that's certain for the FDP nowadays is that they lack a clear profile.
- dsnr 5y ago
  [flagged]
  - Krasnol 5y ago
    Whatever you're using, it's not in German sense and since Germany is the topic here: the old coalition was more right than the current and the current is not "whatever"-right.
okl 5y ago
> The previous ruling coalition was also center-left. That's not true. Maybe center-left compared to US politics.
- dsnr 5y ago
  CDU is a center catch-all party, and SPD is a left party. Which part is not true? I wasn't referring to US politics, this is a thread about Germany.
  - Aerroon 5y ago
    Why does everything list CDU as a catch-all for centre-right then? It's even on the wiki.

trompetenaccoun 5y ago

More like that people do not read articles. They're discussing mandatory vaccinations, they are talking about banning Telegram, with Buschmann saying he's not pro ban but wants to censor Telegram content like they already censor other social media. It's a huge thorn in their claws that they don't control this platform because they're based outside the West. The new chancellor is corrupt and helped cover up the embazzling of over 60 billion euros in the largest tax fraud in German history (CumEx). Forgive me for being skeptical. This is likely smoke and mirrors, just like their announcement to legalize cannabis to distract young voters from all the scandals and authoritarian policies.

usrbinbash 5y ago
Mandatory vaccinations helped to eradicate smallpox. And yes, social media providers have to get their act together if they want to do business in Europe.
- trompetenaccoun 5y ago
  Vaccination isn't going to eradicate SARS, you don't understand how coronaviruses work. If it were that easy we'd already have eradicated a whole bunch of viruses. Any year now the flu is going to be eradicated, just gotta vax more. /s
  - usrbinbash 5y ago
    > Vaccination isn't going to eradicate SARS Did I say it it would? Pretty sure I was talking about smallpox, as a general example how mandatory vaccinations helped in the past. Also, COVID and SARS are two different diseases, caused by different Coronaviridae. Vaccination makes COVID less likely to spread through the population, and can prevent a severe course of the illness.
    - trompetenaccoun 5y ago
      Oh and COVID means COronaVirus Disease. SARS is a coronavirus, both of them are coronaviruses.