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Yeah, I mean I'm not even opposed to pushing families out of cities, I just wish getting rid of cars wasn't sold as a universally good thing by those in charge.
by kypro 5y ago
Yeah, I mean I'm not even opposed to pushing families out of cities, I just wish getting rid of cars wasn't sold as a universally good thing by those in charge. I visited the Amsterdam a couple of years back and as a tourist I loved it, but that's kind of the problem. Cities like London and Amsterdam aren't build with families in mind anymore, which again is fine, but if we're going to celebrate this as an achievement, we need to at least recognise that this kind of city design only really works well for a subset of the population -- and the typical young, city-based HN reader is probably one of the demographics which benefits from it the most.
- throwaway0a5e 5y agoI agree. I wish we could just be honest with ourselves. Boom towns don't try and aren't expected to be family friendly. Why should highly expensive urban cores be any different? But acting like there's not winners and loser is silly and isn't fooling anyone.
- em500 5y agoAmsterdam is mostly fine, especially out side the inner city ring which is overrun with tourists, but only a few km2, probably the size of 2 or 3 Hyde Parks. I don't understand why you think it's not good for families. We live in Amsterdam, have stayed in villages and rural areas (holidays, family), and we (including our 8 year old) don't think we'd be better off anywhere else.