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You have to be very confused to claim Arch is for novices. I used various Linuxes for 12 or so years and I'm still lost if I try to install Arch. Just 5-10 min

You have to be very confused to claim Arch is for novices. I used various Linuxes for 12 or so years and I'm still lost if I try to install Arch. Just 5-10 minutes later I'm like "fuck this, I got better things to do" and off to Manjaro I go. And I have a fully working system another 5-10 minutes later. And that doesn't even touch on what do you think a "novice" is. If you mean people coming from Windows, your best bet is Endeavour / Manjaro / Mint, and never even mention Arch.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>and never even mention Arch On the contrary, the first rule of using Arch, is telling everyone you use Arch BTW :)
- pdimitar 5y ago
  Yeah. :) As good a joke that is, it still says nothing about Arch being easy. It's kind of a badge of honor: "I suffered through this and I gained skills. You should do it too!". It does get annoying at one point though.
BeefWellington 5y ago
I know people like to hate on it, but Fedora has given me the most stable daily user experience over a variety of systems over the past 5 years and is what I run on any productivity-related system I have. I use Manjaro at home mostly as an excuse to learn a different ecosystem and I can't really say it's better or worse than Mint, Ubuntu, Pop, etc.
- pdimitar 5y ago
  Ah, I am not hating on it (nor do I know people doing it) it's just my observation that for grandmas Mint and Manjaro seem to work best in terms of least WTFs per hour. I personally like Manjaro because I burned out on having to micro-manage Linux. Or I got spoiled by my iMac Pro, don't know. In any case I love the already working system I get. My home server is in Manjaro and I only ever had one problem with it (when SSH hard-deprecated several algorithms a few months ago). To me it's perfect because you (1) get a working system in just a few minutes of installation procedure and (2) you can then fine-tune as much as you want. I am not hating on any other distros though. Linux and all of its distros are an acquired taste so hey, whatever tickles people's fancy, let them enjoy it. ^_^

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

>and never even mention Arch On the contrary, the first rule of using Arch, is telling everyone you use Arch BTW :)

pdimitar 5y ago
Yeah. :) As good a joke that is, it still says nothing about Arch being easy. It's kind of a badge of honor: "I suffered through this and I gained skills. You should do it too!". It does get annoying at one point though.

BeefWellington 5y ago

I know people like to hate on it, but Fedora has given me the most stable daily user experience over a variety of systems over the past 5 years and is what I run on any productivity-related system I have. I use Manjaro at home mostly as an excuse to learn a different ecosystem and I can't really say it's better or worse than Mint, Ubuntu, Pop, etc.

pdimitar 5y ago
Ah, I am not hating on it (nor do I know people doing it) it's just my observation that for grandmas Mint and Manjaro seem to work best in terms of least WTFs per hour. I personally like Manjaro because I burned out on having to micro-manage Linux. Or I got spoiled by my iMac Pro, don't know. In any case I love the already working system I get. My home server is in Manjaro and I only ever had one problem with it (when SSH hard-deprecated several algorithms a few months ago). To me it's perfect because you (1) get a working system in just a few minutes of installation procedure and (2) you can then fine-tune as much as you want. I am not hating on any other distros though. Linux and all of its distros are an acquired taste so hey, whatever tickles people's fancy, let them enjoy it. ^_^