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It kind of does though. People online cheer when city centers become closed to cars. Spreading it further probably means restricting cars more. I don't really
by Mirioron 5y ago
It kind of does though. People online cheer when city centers become closed to cars. Spreading it further probably means restricting cars more.
I don't really disagree with your overall stance, but those two do often go hand in hand. Perhaps that's why progress is slow on that front.
- Gigachad 5y agoYou still get to have your car, it just means you can't drive it right through the middle of a dense living area, you'll have to park on the edge and walk/tram/scooter in. Which is the best for everyone.
- pjmlp 5y agoExcept for those in a condition not to easily walk or use any kind of two wheels device. Then there is the whole issue that local city transportation is pretty lousy, even in Europe. Sure big cities have it good on the innermost district, live a bit more on the outskirts or in a smaller town and taxi becomes the only option for those not willing to wait between 1-2h for each bus into each direction plus additional commute. A 30m drive quickly turns into 2h.
- Gigachad 5y agoElectric wheelchairs are likely the best option for the first group. Good thing is making an area better for walking makes it better for disabled people as well. A car centric area is extremely hostile for people with disabilities which make it difficult/illegal to drive.
- pjmlp 5y agoI am all for improvements in such areas, unfortunately even in countries like Germany, there are plenty of local subway stations and local train ones where those requirements are just ignored. There are cars specially tailored for people with disabilities, and electric wheelchairs are only practicable in sunny weather.
- dr_dshiv 5y ago>electric wheelchairs are only practicable in sunny weather. In the Netherlands, at least, electric wheelchairs are out in all weather.
- pjmlp 5y agoYes, some people enjoy arriving all wet to the workplace.
- mrsuprawsm 5y agoThis comment is clearly silly, since in the Netherlands - a rather rainy country - approximately 25% of people commute to work by bicycle. You can wear a coat and rain trousers if you feel like it.
- pjmlp 5y agoI know they do, doesn't mean I want to, and have cycled during Swiss and Scandinavian winters during a couple of years about 20 years ago.
- dr_dshiv 5y agoNo one wants to wear rain pants. The point is that it is a nice compromise. Amsterdam used to be a car focused city till the late 70s-- and now it is much nicer.
- foxes 5y agoIn an ideal world you would not wait for 2 hours for a bus.
- pjmlp 5y agoExcept most of the isn't ideal, far away from it.
- presentation 5y agoBlind, wheelchair-bound, and elderly people use trains daily everywhere in Tokyo. It only sucks if your city doesn’t value the non-able-bodied (which unfortunately is most of the world).
- pjmlp 5y agoEveryone can be temporarily in such situation, but most of the world doesn't care.
- bsanr2 5y agoI remember being surprised at the abundance of tactile paving in Japan. https://www.simplemost.com/sidewalk-bumps/ https://www.simplemost.com/sidewalk-bumps/
- Gigachad 5y agoThese are universal in Australia. In the cities they even sometimes illuminate red/green to show the crossing status.