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Maybe someone should tell American universities that not everything revolves around race.
by cjfd 5y ago
Maybe someone should tell American universities that not everything revolves around race.
- anigbrowl 5y agoNot everything does, but it seems like you're suggesting they throw out a lot of good data indicating that many things do. It's an issue because disparities in areas like criminal justice tend to be self-perpetuating and mutually reinforcing.
- novok 5y agoAmerica's racism issues is not the same as the racism issues in other countries, and it's frustratingly racist of americans to assume that it basically is, the world over. You'll be surprised to find that in some countries, everyone's skin color and look is the same and they still have their own unique twist on racism that has lasted for hundreds of years. In other countries, skin color is the not racism focus point, even though there is skin color variation and other things are!
- anigbrowl 5y agoNobody is making such an assumption. But you might like to think about what is the largest market for English language clinical instruments that purport to measure moral factors in objective terms
- cjfd 5y agoPresumably the so-called 'dark personality traits' have nothing to do with skin color but the adjective 'dark' as something that is threatening is because the night is dark which is ultimately derived from the fact that we are day animals. The so-called 'woke' crowd is not there because anything they say is beneficial but because they enjoy being holier-than-thou and policing the utterings of everyone.
- whatshisface 5y agoOr at least that America's specific, very real race issues are not global or even universal across all English-speaking cultures.
- thereare5lights 5y agoIt's a common response on Reddit that Europe is far more racist than America because they're blind to their own problems.
- SuoDuanDao 5y agoThe trouble with engaging in good faith with that kind of ideology is that it's often used, deliberately or otherwise, to obscure class conflict. Because racial tensions are seen as both more personal and more impossible to solve than class tensions, it tends to drag the conversation out of the realm where solutions could even be proposed. Funnily enough that bit of obfuscation seems to mostly benefit people with enough family wealth to afford a degree at an American university[1]. I had a very off-putting exchange with a redditor in which I argued that the class interests of the working poor and those dependent on welfare were quite different, and that this explained much of the demographic fault-lines in the 2016 election. He immediately accused me of equating ethnic minorities with the welfare class, despite the fact the Trump administration was at the time very publicly talking about the recent drop in black unemployment. For all of the Reddit community's talk about acknowledging one's own problems, the fact that he personally was equating black people with unemployment and his political enemies were doing the opposite wasn't something he could consciously engage with. "America has a racism problem, but only the half I don't identify with". I don't doubt that kind of projection is present all over the place where this subject comes up. [1]I wouldn't be surprised if the fact much of Europe subsidises post secondary education contributes to the fact that the debate is different there - not enough of a class marker if you don't need a private tutor to make it over the line.
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