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In case anybody else is trying to get the item sets, check your spam folder. (BTW this weird thing where Chrome blocks .zip downloads from HTTP sites is new to

In case anybody else is trying to get the item sets, check your spam folder. (BTW this weird thing where Chrome blocks .zip downloads from HTTP sites is new to me) With the G and now D taken...were there other letters too? Is there an alphabet race coming on? It is feeling a bit like a cultural meme-launch--what letter will be next? Some ideas, maybe these would help us all: S, for People Who Are Generally Spies Y, for a unification of theories around detecting a Youtuber in your environs C, for understanding people who Tend to Invent Cryptocurrencies F, for a unified theory of Generally Fishy People

anigbrowl 5y ago
Yep, it's just the academic version of domain squatting. There's good money in both being associated with a fashionable scientific metric (pseudo or not) and in selling - sorry, licensing - tests to institutional buyers that want to run them on everyone in the criminal justice system.
- themodelplumber 5y ago
  It's pretty wild to think about this being run on a bunch of people for serious reasons, because I'm reading through the items and it seems easy to game, in that the generally "morally right" choice seems obvious. "I tend to forgive the wrongs I have suffered." Oh yeah. For _sure_, institutions who are in charge of assessing me, I would _definitely_ tend to forgive those wrongs... Hopefully this would be one of many instruments used... Plus with error around things like maybe not-so-necessary English issues for lower-level readers: "There is poor comfort in revenge." Phrasing? Items requiring more analytical thinking to understand than other items: "If I opposed the election of an official, then I would be glad to see him or her fail even if their failure hurt my community." Just to say--love the research, really curious about the application...
  - anigbrowl 5y ago
    Those are good criticisms. My (2nd hand) understanding is that in institutional settings where there would be incentives to lie on a self-report the grading is done on a clinical instrument by a professional who educes the answers through conversation rather than stating them plainly. At least, that's how the Hare psychopathy checklist is done, and subjects who would score high on that are disproportionately likely to want to game such an instrument.
    - staticautomatic 5y ago
      Ideally, a psychometric test has a validity scale (e.g. the MMPI)
    - themodelplumber 5y ago
      Thanks, that's really interesting. The professional aspect is a little bit concerning TBH. From what I learned in instruction on psychometric instruments in the past I think I'd be inclined to request that some random sample of N professionals carry this out. Especially to the degree that some individual's institutional future hangs in the balance...
- aksss 5y ago
  Just wait for NFTs on the alphabet.
- thathndude 5y ago
  I have colleagues (lawyers) who make a killing doing nothing more than suing various companies for “infringement” of these copyrighted “models.” This is a gross oversimplification, but someone mentions d-score in a textbook without licensing, and suddenly you get a lawsuit demanding you reprint every single textbook (or you can make a retroactive licensing payment—how convenient).
dotancohen 5y ago
C is taken. My then-four year old saw K&R on my desk, with the large C displayed prominently on the cover, and exclaimed "A book about Carbon!". Carbon is his nickname (his sisters are Hydrogen and Oxygen, guess what my internal nickname for the ex is).
- cozzyd 5y ago
  Radon?
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    Radon would also be a good one! Nitrogen is the remaining organic element - and in our language the word for nitrogen literally translates to "the choking one". Our words for Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen do describe the kid's personalities very well too - "the dirty one", "the watery one" (her name literally is "much water") and "the one who interferes with everything".
- cookiengineer 5y ago
  So your nickname is Carboxylic acid?
  - dotancohen 5y ago
    Don't let the kids hear this! They'll adopt it!

anigbrowl 5y ago

Yep, it's just the academic version of domain squatting. There's good money in both being associated with a fashionable scientific metric (pseudo or not) and in selling - sorry, licensing - tests to institutional buyers that want to run them on everyone in the criminal justice system.

themodelplumber 5y ago
It's pretty wild to think about this being run on a bunch of people for serious reasons, because I'm reading through the items and it seems easy to game, in that the generally "morally right" choice seems obvious. "I tend to forgive the wrongs I have suffered." Oh yeah. For _sure_, institutions who are in charge of assessing me, I would _definitely_ tend to forgive those wrongs... Hopefully this would be one of many instruments used... Plus with error around things like maybe not-so-necessary English issues for lower-level readers: "There is poor comfort in revenge." Phrasing? Items requiring more analytical thinking to understand than other items: "If I opposed the election of an official, then I would be glad to see him or her fail even if their failure hurt my community." Just to say--love the research, really curious about the application...
- anigbrowl 5y ago
  Those are good criticisms. My (2nd hand) understanding is that in institutional settings where there would be incentives to lie on a self-report the grading is done on a clinical instrument by a professional who educes the answers through conversation rather than stating them plainly. At least, that's how the Hare psychopathy checklist is done, and subjects who would score high on that are disproportionately likely to want to game such an instrument.
  - staticautomatic 5y ago
    Ideally, a psychometric test has a validity scale (e.g. the MMPI)
  - themodelplumber 5y ago
    Thanks, that's really interesting. The professional aspect is a little bit concerning TBH. From what I learned in instruction on psychometric instruments in the past I think I'd be inclined to request that some random sample of N professionals carry this out. Especially to the degree that some individual's institutional future hangs in the balance...
aksss 5y ago
Just wait for NFTs on the alphabet.
thathndude 5y ago
I have colleagues (lawyers) who make a killing doing nothing more than suing various companies for “infringement” of these copyrighted “models.” This is a gross oversimplification, but someone mentions d-score in a textbook without licensing, and suddenly you get a lawsuit demanding you reprint every single textbook (or you can make a retroactive licensing payment—how convenient).

dotancohen 5y ago

C is taken. My then-four year old saw K&R on my desk, with the large C displayed prominently on the cover, and exclaimed "A book about Carbon!". Carbon is his nickname (his sisters are Hydrogen and Oxygen, guess what my internal nickname for the ex is).

cozzyd 5y ago
Radon?
- dotancohen 5y ago
  Radon would also be a good one! Nitrogen is the remaining organic element - and in our language the word for nitrogen literally translates to "the choking one". Our words for Carbon, Hydrogen, and Oxygen do describe the kid's personalities very well too - "the dirty one", "the watery one" (her name literally is "much water") and "the one who interferes with everything".
cookiengineer 5y ago
So your nickname is Carboxylic acid?
- dotancohen 5y ago
  Don't let the kids hear this! They'll adopt it!